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If I was going to use a cheat device, it's not because my hands aren't on the wheel, it would be because I'm tired of always having to apply force to the steering while. My fingers are always on the wheel but it's not enough force to stop the warning from engaging.

If that's true, I may have to look into trading in my Tesla for a Mercedes as Autopilot was the main reason I purchased a Tesla.

Interesting. I feel it would be ridiculous not to. Lots of people share their car so at least allow it for two profiles. Easy fix to this ridiculousness Tesla has created.

Yes, the new updates are absolutely ridiculous. I wonder if anyone actually did any real life testing before rolling this out. It sure doesn't seem like it unless their goal was to make autopilot completely useless.

What is you set it to another driver profile? If I mess up, my wife cannot use autopilot? That's a little bit ridiculous.

The new update makes autopilot pretty much unusable. I've gotten warnings while applying torque to the wheel and looking at the road. I'm seeing more Tesla's pulled over on highways these days. Whenever I pass one, I'm thinking they are resetting the autopilot. They tried to make things...

I noticed it is getting worse. I was in a snowstorm the other day, slippery road conditions and it hammered the breaks for no reason. Surprised I didn't spin out. If someone was behind me, definitely an accident.

If you don't like it, please stand by. The paint cost, like other Tesla pricing, could change within the next 5 minutes.

I got the email and immediately booked a test drive. I was blown away. I pulled out my credit card right away to re-order. Unfortunately, during the process I found out that the re-order wouldn't come with the free LTE. I asked if they could make an exception, but was told no. When I...

Not too surprised. If there's anything we've learned throughout this whole ordeal, it's that Tesla isn't the best at notifying or communicating to customers.

I cancelled and probably can't un-cancel as the money was already returned on my credit card. If it wasn't for the no rebate scare, I would have a Model 3. =( Pretty unfair for those who cancelled but fair for those who didn't.

I really didn't have much faith in a judge ruling in favor of Tesla, especially after the 'Beer without boarders' debacle, where the courts incorrectly ruled it's illegal to bring beer from Quebec into Ontario. Anyways, since Tesla won this verdict, maybe their next lawsuit could be for the...

If Tesla wins money from the lawsuit, I think they will take $14,000 off the final price of the car so we don't even have to submit a form for a rebate. I think they will contact everyone who cancelled due to no rebate and let them know they can still order the car, $14,000 cheaper, even the AWD...

If the price today is $1.35, they can just say price today should be $1.45. 10 cents a liter savings delivered!

Looks like Ford also cancelled the universal basic income project for low-income people, something he promised he wouldn't do. It made the news and he and still got away with it. If he got away with that, he's definitely going to get away with the unfair EV program phase out. The only...

Very true. Even when the Ombudsman comes to the conclusion that Tesla is a dealership and, according to the wording of the phase out policy, Tesla orders must qualify, Ford can change it to read "orders before July 11th qualify, except for dealerships which start with the letter T and rhyme...

Wow, there's actually a scroll-bar to see the list of people who disagreed. Never seen that before. Just wondering if anyone else who cancelled feels a bit bitter whenever they see a Model 3 on the road? =p

Sadly, having it in writing still won't guarantee anything. They can just say that rep was misinformed and they will do better to train their reps in the future. That's what happened to me in another situation. Also, a member here posted a screenshot where Doug Ford himself wrote that all...

None of the options really apply to me. I cancelled but I'm keeping my current car. I chose 'cancelled and purchased an ICE car', since I felt that was the closest. But hopefully I'll buy an EV when Ontario brings back incentives.

I'm not asking you guys get a price reduction or that Tesla sells the vehicle at a loss. Maybe just throw in a free Enhanced Autopilot + free Full Self-Driving Capability as an incentive to keep your order. I don't think it would cost Tesla very much to just turn on a couple software features...

Sounds about right. I think the only way you guys will see some kind of incentive is if it comes from Tesla directly. If enough people cancel their orders, Tesla may realize they need to do something if they'd like to salvage some orders.

Just finished cancelling as I cannot afford the car without the promised rebate. Reservation placed April 2017. Invited to order April 2018. (Delayed order to see if AWD would be added to EV rebate list.) Ordered RWD June 2018. Called Tesla; hold time 38 minutes. Confirmed that if there's a...

In a way, this situation reminds me of a phone company that recently earned a lot of customers by offering a low monthly rate along with a promise that they will not increase the price. As soon as they got a lot of customers to switch over carriers, they raised the price. There was such an...

I think the standard battery base model 3 will be under $50k.

I placed my order through the dealership in Oakville and I saw some people placing orders at Yorkdale. Since I ordered through the dealership, I asked MTO if that makes me eligible for the incentive. I have not received a response but they responded to another inquiry I had, regarding AWD, the...

Oh, you're right, but they use the same confusing dealer/manufacturer terminology as the website, "The province announced last week that the electric vehicle incentive program will end on Sept. 10 for those who have their vehicle delivered, registered and plated if it was purchased from a...

Don't feed the trolls. =p

I wish the article mentioned that other EVs delivered before September 10th will still get the rebate. Too bad Tesla didn't offer a comment. The articled could have at least mentioned Tesla's Tweet to the MTO: "It is unfair to treat our customers worse than those who bought their car from a...

Most people know Tesla is a real dealership. The ministry just chose poor wording. They could have and probably should have just said 'all dealerships have until September 10th, except Tesla because Doug Ford doesn't like Tesla'. There still wouldn't be anything we could do.