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Center bore hasn’t changed. I don’t think they will work without issue without a spacer. The front rim will be 24mm closer to the suspension

Kinda like don’t keep your finger on the trigger of a handgun?

I doubt there’s an off the shelf tubing solution with a wall thickness thin enough to work.

That’s because they don’t have inventory, the wheels are custom. They are made after you decide on specs.

Ok, what’s the right offset?

Was that your last Tesla in your garage? All gone now?

Is it possible to reinstall just a partial rear window? I joke…. Hopefully it’s right this time

Seems my car doesn’t suffer from the root cause of the vibration the software is masking

For most of its life, yes. They’ve been off a few times for short periods. I doubt the root cause is wear due to height though

It’s a wow that I put 33,000 miles on my car in over 2 years?

Like 33,000

My August 2021 Plaid has never had even a hint of vibration at any speed. Many are skeptical of my claim but I welcome anyone in SoCal to try it themselves.

I haven’t ventured anywhere it didn’t… 😂

Air in lines would cause a squishy feeling and extra travel distance. Incomplete burnishing makes more sense.

initial bite has improved, I don’t think they were completely burnished on delivery

You order it through the app, I’d count on about a month wait. 2 days to install.

Those software changes were driven by hardware changes that previous versions can’t do, therefore they don’t get it.

Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge and keeping your feelings out of it.

Can't really disagree with someone's reading comprehension skill, but ok. I get your sentiment. This started when I posted that the the issues of a 2012 S are not the same as the Refresh. You disagreed. How is that possible to disagree with? You think the refresh suffers from the same issues as...

Buckets, what exactly are you disagreeing with, or are you just trolling a response? Previous gen and refresh suspensions aren’t the same. Camber is desirable Toe out is bad Refresh has soft bushings Tires aren’t defective

Once again, the previous generation had a lot of camber which caused tires to wear out in 15,000 miles. This is a completely different issue than the refresh suspension that has a dynamic toe problem which causes scrub on the inside of the tires under hard acceleration, causing them to split in...

Are you mental? I’m not trying to blame camber I like a healthy amount of camber all around. refresh suffers from some flexy bushings. on acceleration it squats and toes out. With the soft bushings setting the toe in a bit compensates for that defect.

That’s exactly what i said it is, mainly a toe problem, unlike the previous gen which just had camber wear. why did you disagree with me?

The issue is different

Back when they delivered 135 cars a day

I just have to say that a Plaid with track pack is in a completely different universe than a 2015 P85D....

That's the recommended pressure

Happy to see people are catching on.

There was a CF shortage in 2021. Tesla offered many new plaid buyers the option to get wood trim to expedite delivery.

Um, windshields are all double paned, have been for decades.

I'm sure Tesla Plaid Channel installs his updates and would report back a sudden change in quarter mile times. Can we stop reaching for straws?

I think Sorka is struggling to understand different power delivery profiles at different throttle positions. It's common with internal combustion engine control and easy to apply with electric motor control as well. No one is complaining about a little vibration under full power so no need to...

Common sense?

If you read a little bit more you’ll find the simple “too much camber” which led your 2013 to wear increasingly more as you got to the inside of the tire is not the “same” issue the refresh has. Refresh problem is combination of camber and toe, which flexes out. This is what causes the tire to...

You did spend the first how many months of ownership hoping you’d get it though?

What were the toe settings for the examples above? I’m sure he’s pushing his winter tires really hard off the line.

Because the 19’s don’t see the same stress on the inner corner for all the reasons Sam pointed out, they don’t reach the failure point as easily. Your conclusion that they wear perfectly normally comes from where? You just won’t let go

On the flip side, I do get super frustrated with the “how do I keep my car in high to stop my tires from shredding on the inside” crowd… with the “you have to buy these camber arms” and “it’s the same problem since 2012” responses.

Just to add to the fray… most of us are here to discuss and learn. Terranx you simplify everything to a 0 or 1. Camber, toe, dynamic change, tire design etc all play a part. Changing one affects the other. There are many solutions and results possible. You even sound like you disagree with me...

Apologies if it’s not in here, I didn’t watch the whole thing.

Who is the “they” in the know who are lying about it?

You don’t say, 😂

Correcting/setting the toe doesn’t ruin the handling

A shim is simple, structurally sound, and less prone to failure than any threaded mechanism. Your factory bushings are rubber and flex. Adjustable camber arms are pretty and nothing wrong with them either.

The aftermarket part can be as simple as a shim/washer behind the factory camber arm. To fix the flex under acceleration UP has lower control arms with bushings and bushings a la carte I think. Mountain Pass has adjustable lower control arms if you want infinite adjustment. If you’re happy at...

Camber is a component of the shredding and flattening it does help. As Sam mentioned, In addition the toe is set correctly as well at that time. I’m sure you will have cases with the camber arms installed but bad toe settings still having problems, give it time. Once again camber is a key...

I’ll keep repeating this. 2013 camber issues that merely cause wear are a different symptom and problem then camber plus dynamic toe issues that cause the tires to shred with plenty of tread left. Hopefully someone understands this…

As I mentioned I removed my adjustable control arms, toe arms, and links before taking it in. I put them back on after. My links are -6/-7. I had it aligned elsewhere as Tesla won’t touch it with the adjustment stuff on it. I set my camber at 1.3 all around on low and reduced the toe as my...

I don’t think anyone said moving it was an improvement in every way