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all good. electrician doesn't see any issues with WC or the line. issue was all upstream - only reason I thought it was the WC is that the romex coming out of the board smelled like burning (because the terminal inside the board was burning)

Update for those interested... this morning's electrician came out, pulled the panel off, and immediately spotted that the inbound line (service --> board 1 --> this board, board 2) was not tightened and arcing under high load. Nothing to do with the HWPC at all beyond the fact that 40A load got...

Electrician swapped the breaker for a brand new one; that one didn't trip either even when the car was set to 40A and amp meter showed 105A. I am more and more convinced electrician's amp meter was wrong. Just thinking thru the math - excess 60A x 240V is a lot of heat to dissipate out into the...

I talked to Tesla as @DerbyDave kindly suggested - they think it's a ground fault (high temp at terminals). I coincidentally had a mobile tech out today and he thinks the unit's probably faulty given sudden failure, but I'm getting (another) electrician to come check the boxes for tesla so I can...

Copper wire, professionally installed by qualified and licensed electricians... and operating great for 9 months. no faults in the cable, nothing else on the circuit. I can't explain it. Beyond confused. Calling Tesla and seeing if they'll send a replacement just to eliminate that variable.

I had the same question for my electrician (reputable company that’s done work for me before). His response was - shrug, they don’t trip immediately. He also replaced the breaker and found the same overage. Could his amp meter be wrong, sure. But the burning smell lends credence to something...

Sorry, dramatic post title but couldn't resist... I had a Gen3 wall charger installed last year - only thing on a 50A breaker, firmware set to limit charging to 40A, car set to 40A. Last week noticed a burning smell from the Romex. Electrician came out today and measured current at the breaker...

“Regular” refresh S.

Weirdly my notes are very slightly different but still effectively nothing.

Friends, Romans, countrymen... Quick thoughts after a week and a half with the car primarily in city driving. I'm a fan so far - big improvement over the 3. Setting the car to comfort suspension is a delight, although it makes you feel like a barge captain steering-wise (tradeoffs). Contrarian...

It’s been a long strange journey to get here but finally have a beaut of a Model S in my driveway. Some thoughts and observations for those still waiting, from a prior Model 3 owner. Let’s kick off with “the Tesla experience” overall. Well, it still sucks but it’s getting better! I hopped a...

That would be easiest but I "bank" with one of the brokerages so getting a cashier's check is a bear. Any other options anyone is aware of? Looks like I could add my bank account and pay w/ Plaid instantly - will that work on moment of delivery?

Hi guys, need some quick dumb help - BOA botched my initial loan config so ended up owing a small balance (around a grand). What's the smart play on paying Tesla? Can I do it at the DC before picking up, and if so how (personal check, pay thru Plaid app...)? I don't want to wire $$ sight unseen...

@cwanja some more datapoints for you - I am MF4545 - spoke with an SA today to update some registration details. He confirmed again that 1) he is aware of the firmware hold 2) he reviewed my car's notes carefully and confirmed that it was NOT included in the delivery hold. Now this is not...

Call the general line. Dial 1, then 1 again, then say Model S delivery. Tell the person who picks up you want to know where your car is. If you need to push to ask them for specific location do it. If they won't, hang up and dial again. I've done that 3x this week and have gotten a specific...

I have a family member picking up a Taycan soon. When I look at stats no jealousy. When I look at the car… lots of jealousy.

Well said! Right now I’m voting for more infrastructure. Because my Tesla got from CA to NY in 6 days and hot damn that’s fast; but it’s still got to cross the wasteland of Connecticut to get here. Anyone who’s taken the Acela knows, that car is another 6 days away. PS if y’all want to keep...

Fun fact for those like me who are moaning about 21 vs. 22 VINs... I've done some tire kicking on selling my 18 M3 (bought Nov '18). Turns out the '18 trades slightly higher than a comparable '19 would... because the "annual" mileage is lower (keep in mind I am a low-mileage driver generally...

i guess I’m just confused; what value does Tesla get from cutting over somewhat randomly in November? Especially after pushing out a whole slew of cars in the past week judging by this board? Maybe it has something to do with the moment of VIN assignment - I’m not a real car guy, so I don’t...

I would not put any stock in the range display; percentage will preserve your sanity. There are whole long threads about phantom drain, range reduction, rebalancing the battery pack etc etc. My considered opinion after 3 years of Tesla ownership is: I drive car, I stop car when instructed by GPS.

Call into the main line - I find about 75% of the time I get someone who's super pleasant and happy to help. I asked today and was told my car was leaving Chicago this afternoon. (But for the record - I am getting routed to the Northeast call center. I was in FL last week for work and got...

I asked an SA this question today - I am trying to wrangle financing, selling a car, and traveling for Thanksgiving, so time of delivery is really important. He told me that while he HAS seen firmware holds over the past few months, he does NOT see a firmware hold on my 11/4 manufactured car. He...

Have you used them? Definitely got a better quote than I’ve seen elsewhere, but skeptical of what looks like a ca.1998 business.

Carvana consistently gives me hilariously crap quotes on my 2018 3. Vroom and Carmax both seem to offer better price points; although since I get sales tax benefit for a trade-in, Tesla's quote is within a few hundred bucks of Vroom right now. Hope that helps!

Random question of the day (sorry, but we all know that's what this thread really is at this point!). Anyone with a BMW X3 or X5 (or comparable) able to comment on trunk space in the new S? Sounds like they trimmed down the space a bit from the pre-refresh and now I don't have a good mental...

Ah my friend welcome to the rabbit hole. Over three years of owning a 3, I have most enjoyed heated Reddit discussions between people claiming the most recent update improved the wipers and those swearing it was worse. All I know is that the wiper blades on the 3 suck so bad it barely matters.

I just priced DCU today. Waiting for approval but they will give you 1.74% pretty much to start. You can get another 50bps if you do direct deposit but on a 60 month term it wasn’t really worth it to me. The guy working with me on it said that his system is showing my VIN with equity of $97k so...

@donandersonjr so you guys are saying that to maximize financing I’m better off selling to separate party? Damn. That’s annoying. Thanks for the intel. ETA: I called Tesla and the above is incorrect. They WILL issue a refund for an over financing. However, it takes 1-3 months, which as we all...

Can one of you savvy veteran car buyers help me with a dumb loan problem? I’m a finance guy but book learning doesn’t beat practical knowledge, and I need it since I finally have a delivery date of 11/24! I’m trading my Model 3 against the Model S because I get an offset against sales tax that...

Love that 1) you're battling literally the most positive person in this thread 2) your approach is "poor corporation, be nice to them." Why should I? They ain't sending me a car for free. Supply chain is their issue, not mine. If they want to communicate with me about it, cool! Otherwise, I'm...

Quick preview of what happens post-VIN for all of you guys waiting. "Hey Tesla, when's my car coming? It's scheduled for Thanksgiving week, which, you know, is a holiday people travel for." "We have ABSOLUTELY no idea. But the guy who told you it was in transit yesterday lied. Also you have...

454, born on 11/4. And no, whatever the cutover for Model S is, it isn’t 11/1. Lots of evidence of that in recent days.

Dude, no one at that location will pick up. I don’t have a contact; and no one has even reached out since I got my VIN. I wish I could help you! Try calling the main line and arguing a bit.

Either way, makes you think twice about passing on a MF right? No guarantees w/ Tesla and if you skip your place in line you might be waiting a few months. (That's what I'm telling myself, so I can get over Tesla AGAIN saddling me with a in-year VIN with a month left in the year.)

Just called in and got a build date of 11/4 for my MF454 VIN. When I asked for the build date the guy audibly swallowed and said "Do you want to know about whether it's a '21 or '22?" I'm guessing there have been angry calls. My car is "in transit but we don't know anything else at this time"...

Peabody for my sins. Fingers crossed for you.

Cross posting - finally got a VIN (MF454 - new build right?) - delivery almost 6 months to the exact day from order. Anyone who’s been waiting since January, you’re a saint. My window didn’t follow any patterns others reported - I went from Nov 3-Dec 1 to Nov 17-27 to Nov 24-28. Updates on...

Finally got that elusive VIN - MF454. No email or text from Tesla, just logged into my account and there it was. Delivery 11/24-28, so almost exactly 6 months to the day from order. Those of you have waited longer… it’s some bull crap and I’m sorry. For posterity’s sake / so someone can...

I’m confused at your statement! I live up the road from you and I get 240 with my 2018 m3lr come winter time. I’m no speed demon either. I fully believe a 405 rated car is 300-350 in real world winter driving conditions. Summer on the other hand - totally believe you’d get close to rating.

You and I have the same range. Said this earlier in the thread but FWIW my SA told me that's manufacture date and I should expect 2 additional weeks for delivery.

Not showing for me. But I did see increases for Model 3 and Y.

Long romantic dinner w/ the Gator?

Same experience (and same DC I believe). "Your EDD is when your car will be manufactured, then add 14 to ship." OK, maybe you guys could do that on your side? Y'know... Estimated DELIVERY date...?

Of course they are. Why wouldn’t they? I think we can get mixed up here in this thread around what we are all mad about. I thought we were mad that Tesla is the absolute pits at communication, routinely changes EDDs with no explanation, and it’s impossible to get a human to explain to you...

I remember some posts about this from years ago. I think you want to 1) avoid extension cords if at all possible 2) if not, bump up to 10 gauge or even 8 gauge. I am not an expert but my recollection is that the rating is not intended to account for hours of high load, which is what your car...

Yeah as mentioned earlier I made that mistake once. And my window just shrank from Nov 3 -Dec 1 down to Nov 17-27. Odds my car came off the line on Oct 30th seem reasonable, darn it.

Just hit the top of my 1 month window and the date shoved back to Nov 17-27. Exactly in line with what someone from the call center told me to expect a couple weeks back. I take it as a good sign. Talk about ungrateful though: now I want a ‘22 VIN. Fool me once with a late November delivery...

Finally, TIDAL is available for all three of their subscribers!

In selling my 2018 Model 3 (purchased late Nov 2018...), I am noticing that similarly equipped and similar mileage 2019s are trading around $49-52K vs. 2018s around $45-47K. Of course this is an unprecedented time, but right now the ding I got from purchasing 1.5 months before the cutover is...

The world's tiniest violin plays for you, my friend.