Pirelli summer tires

[BennyNielsen]

Anyone tried these tires? P ZERO™ (PZ4) 265/35R19 | Pirelli

They seem to be the best choice for summertires right now.

 

[tm1v2]

Anyone tried these tires? P ZERO™ (PZ4) 265/35R19 | Pirelli

They seem to be the best choice for summertires right now.

@BennyNielsen In the US here the Pirelli PZ4 is the M3P OEM tire since 2021. I found it mediocre for the category. I didn't hate it, but the grip was disappointing, and it squealed a lot in hard driving. It's generally considered an inferior tire for the category in this forums, though some disagree.

At 1k miles I replaced my stock 235/35R20 PZ4 on 20x9" M3P wheels with 245/45R18 Bridgestone Potenza Sport on 18x8.5" wheels. The Potenza Sport gripped better dry and wet, it was noticeable even from my butt dyno, a bigger upgrade than I expected. The Potenza Sport were also quieter when driven hard, without the squealing of the PZ4. Lastly I couldn't tell any loss of responsiveness despite the much taller sidewalls. The Potenza Sport have very sturdy, sporty-feeling sidewalls.

The Michelin PS4S that used to be OEM on the M3P here is also widely considered a better performance tire.

To the PZ4's credit, the Tesla OEM version with foam liner was nicely quiet in casual driving (when not pushing them hard) for a performance tire. I don't know how much of that is thanks to the foam liner which you won't get in 265/35R19. My Potenza Sport (no foam liner of course) were a bit louder at all speeds when driving casually. Not too loud, I've had much louder performance tires on past cars, but certainly the Tesla spec PZ4 were quieter (when not squealing).

Personally in this category I'd highly recommend the Bridgestone Potenza Sport or Michelin PS4S over the Pirelli PZ4. I'd also try Continental or Goodyear offerings before resorting to the PZ4 again. Again I didn't hate the PZ4 but they were kind of disappointing and I can say firsthand there are higher performing tires in the category.

 

[tm1v2]

Also I'm aware of the Tire Rack comparison review that rated the PZ4 highly and I have no explanation to reconcile that with my own experience. Usually I find myself in agreement with Tire Rack's reviews on a tire but not this one.

Many others here have reported being disappointed in the OEM PZ4 so I don't think it's just me. It's possible (in theory, total speculation here) the Tesla spec PZ4 has a different, less grippy compound than the regular PZ4 which Tire Rack tested. I'm not risking my money on the regular PZ4 just to find out though, after my disappointment in the OEM version.

I assume Tire Rack simply pulls from their inventory for their review tires, so they shouldn't be subject to ringers.

Btw my efficiency went up with the new wheels+tires but I credit all of that to the smaller, lighter wheels.

 

[dsgerbc]

I'd take Michelin PS4s over these any day. Pirellis may squeak out a test win, but Michelins will last ages longer.

 

[BennyNielsen]

Also I'm aware of the Tire Rack comparison review that rated the PZ4 highly and I have no explanation to reconcile that with my own experience. Usually I find myself in agreement with Tire Rack's reviews on a tire but not this one.

Many others here have reported being disappointed in the OEM PZ4 so I don't think it's just me. It's possible (in theory, total speculation here) the Tesla spec PZ4 has a different, less grippy compound than the regular PZ4 which Tire Rack tested. I'm not risking my money on the regular PZ4 just to find out though, after my disappointment in the OEM version.

I assume Tire Rack simply pulls from their inventory for their review tires, so they shouldn't be subject to ringers.

Btw my efficiency went up with the new wheels+tires but I credit all of that to the smaller, lighter wheels.

Thank you for that. Is it also til Elect model of pirelli that is OEM for M3P? The Pirelli tire is with foam liner. Even in the 265/35R19. I only use my M3LR for a daily driver so i am looking for a tire with low rolling resistance and low noise. The Pirelli seems to give me that but I will take you answers into consideration before buying tires. Thanks again

 

[tm1v2]

Thank you for that. Is it also til Elect model of pirelli that is OEM for M3P? The Pirelli tire is with foam liner. Even in the 265/35R19. I only use my M3LR for a daily driver so i am looking for a tire with low rolling resistance and low noise. The Pirelli seems to give me that but I will take you answers into consideration before buying tires. Thanks again

@BennyNielsen I think the M3P OEM PZ4 is labeled "Elect" but there are other PZ4 Elect with different specs. For example in the 235/35R20 stock M3P size Tire Rack shows 3 (!) different kinds of PZ4 Elect, for McLaren, Porsche (N1), and Tesla (T0). The Porsche version is listed as 220TW 88Y SL, while the McLaren and Tesla versions are both 280TW 92Y XL. Only the Tesla version is described as having "Noise Reduction Technology" - which I believe is the foam liner.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/Tire...=P+Zero+(PZ4)&width=235/&ratio=35&diameter=20
https://www.pirelli.com/tires/en-us/car/catalog/product/new-p-zero-elect/235_35-r20
https://www.pirelli.com/ecolabels/web/us/3828000_US_P.jpg

The only 265/34R19 PZ4 I see is *not* a Tesla spec tire (not T0 or T1 or such), however it does have "NCS" on the label which I believe means foam liner. So I guess you're right, you can get that liner in 265/35R19, neat.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/Tire...=P+Zero+(PZ4)&width=265/&ratio=35&diameter=19
https://www.pirelli.com/tires/en-us/car/catalog/product/new-p-zero-elect/265_35-r19
https://www.pirelli.com/ecolabels/web/us/4125400_US_P.jpg

If you're just using the car as a daily driver, and are more concerned with quietness than maximum grip, I might suggest skipping these extra wide tires and sticking with stock-like 235-245 mm width on 8.5" wide wheels. That should be a little quieter than 265, as well as cheaper and more efficient, and still grip plenty well for any sane street driving (if you pick a good performance tire). That's just my suggestion, take it or leave it.

 

[BennyNielsen]

@BennyNielsen I think the M3P OEM PZ4 is labeled "Elect" but there are other PZ4 Elect with different specs. For example in the 235/35R20 stock M3P size Tire Rack shows 3 (!) different kinds of PZ4 Elect, for McLaren, Porsche (N1), and Tesla (T0). The Porsche version is listed as 220TW 88Y SL, while the McLaren and Tesla versions are both 280TW 92Y XL. Only the Tesla version is described as having "Noise Reduction Technology" - which I believe is the foam liner.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/Tire...=P+Zero+(PZ4)&width=235/&ratio=35&diameter=20
https://www.pirelli.com/tires/en-us/car/catalog/product/new-p-zero-elect/235_35-r20
https://www.pirelli.com/ecolabels/web/us/3828000_US_P.jpg

The only 265/34R19 PZ4 I see is *not* a Tesla spec tire (not T0 or T1 or such), however it does have "NCS" on the label which I believe means foam liner. So I guess you're right, you can get that liner in 265/35R19, neat.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/Tire...=P+Zero+(PZ4)&width=265/&ratio=35&diameter=19
https://www.pirelli.com/tires/en-us/car/catalog/product/new-p-zero-elect/265_35-r19
https://www.pirelli.com/ecolabels/web/us/4125400_US_P.jpg

If you're just using the car as a daily driver, and are more concerned with quietness than maximum grip, I might suggest skipping these extra wide tires and sticking with stock-like 235-245 mm width on 8.5" wide wheels. That should be a little quieter than 265, as well as cheaper and more efficient, and still grip plenty well for any sane street driving (if you pick a good performance tire). That's just my suggestion, take it or leave it.

Thank you very much. I think I will try the Pirelli tire. If i dont find any other tire before summer