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Not funny but rather silly. Adds zero value to the conversation. Will let moderators judge on your participation here.

Yeah but let's not forget there are some brands that do offer both nowadays (the "yesterday's news": The typical stuff that we used to find in ICE luxury brands which are far better than Tesla stuff) as well as good software driven EVs. Like I said, EQS SUV and EQS are under my radar too, and...

No even this 2021 one does NOT have stalks. See photo below?

Thanks. Useful confirmation.

Since we're discussing the topic, any disadvantages if I consider a pre-owned 2021 (refresh interior) Model S with 10K Miles, instead of searching for 2022? The one I see is offered for 76K miles and it has cream interior. What am I losing by passing on the 2022 in exchange to getting much...

I am not sure why some users here try to convince me about taking a Tesla for long trips without proving a single point wherein the Tesla has more benefits for me than my other highway vehicles that also offer luxury trip experience. I only see benefits for in-town daily drive but zero benefits...

That is your personal opinion. As the OP myself, I got a very useful information here at least for my specific intended use. I also indirectly confirmed that the benefits that current Tesla vehicles would only benefit me for in-town driving and there is no unique offering for long-trips for the...

Thanks. I think getting a Tesla as a replacement for our in-town vehicle is a conservatives approach for now. If we really like it, I can then consider trading my other vehicle used for long highway trips but I just can't see how that would be an option though (there is just no way that will...

Well, I certainly learned a lot hearing from everyone here. Thanks a lot, all opinions were equally as important and useful to me. I'd say that one thing I noticed that "some" current Tesla owners are a bit unaware of what has happened in the past 1-2 years with other brands. What used to be...

Thank you very much, very useful response, and am glad that you were able to confirm/understand and see some of my points being valid, hence the decision of not considering a Tesla now for highway and instead am considering one for in-town driving. I hope in the future at some point Tesla would...

Like I said, nearly 90% of my points have nothing to do with EV vs ICU ( I can care less about what is causing my wheels to spin on a road trip) but what I care about is those features (for long trips). Once Tesla offers any of these features then I can consider a Tesla for highway trips...

I agree, and with all due respect I am certainly taking most of the comments with the understanding they are naturally biased; however some are still useful. My final decision certainly will depend on the test drive or rental, but also hearing from others can help me to know what to focus on...

Yes, I am researching the Tesla Model Y (or Model S) option versus the new 5-series 530e PHEV, 2024 i5 coming this summer, or the BMW iX option. This will be a replacement of our X5 used as local driving vehicle now. If we consider the Model S, we should also add the i7 to the list of options...

For highway long trips? No way ever I would consider Tesla. Tesla for me is a consideration for in-town short-medium trips/driving only. What keeps my ICE for long highway trips? * Because I need the massage seat (yes they are truly functional on the GLS 580 and my S-560. Just fine on the BMW...

Appreciate everyone's feedback. Sounds like there is a general agreement that Tesla is not a Luxury car, and if that is what I really wanted, I should get a BMW or MBenz EV if luxury is more important to me that all other things (?). As for Tesla, sounds like the main motivation is autonomous...

Appreciate that attempt to educate or advise me on how threads should be started, but I guess to each his own method of asking his question; I'll stick with mine. I try to leave emotions aside and to be straight forward, and am opened to any reactions. I just take the valuable feedback and...

Thanks; so what's the point or motivation of staying with Tesla now if other true luxury brands also started to offer EV vehicles (at least stating 2022/2023)? I have not driven i7 yet, but with the price of S and i7 being almost the same, the comparison on paper seems to lead to only one...

Agreed. I would assume Tesla and BMW owners are of the same demography, mostly car enthusiast. Have you driven or tested any of the i4 or iX or iX BMW cars recently? I am really interest in hearing any experiences from Tesla owners who also then tried EV BMWs to help me know more about the...

Any user account has to start from time (t=0) at some point. New users/owners/potential_buyers are those that really need all different opinions and experiences of other senior owners. If new new owners or new potential owners are going to be ignored (and all assumed to be a troll) and only...

Probably nobody cares here, but wanted to hear what you all think about the conversation below in one of the BMW forums. I am at the border of switching to Tesla but seems like most folks recommends against the idea, and then i came across that topic. Let's be honest, why opinions around Tesla...

I appreciate the feedback. Perhaps my current conclusions are only valid when comparing the X7 or other high-end vehicles to the Model S and X. Surely they are different and for whatever reason I failed to find the value in switching now. However, I remain excited and optimistic about the...

Sorry it was not my intention to come and pick on anyone’s preferred brand if my comments did hurt anyone’s feelings. I was really just starting my research, but I had the entire week off and truly spent hours of research, reading online, posting on forums and even drove 3 hours to drive...

I test drove a Model X and Model S back to back today, and I walked away very disappointed, albeit not surprised, about the still poor build quality of these $100k+ vehicles. Creaks and rattles galore on both, the Falcon wing was broken on the drivers side of the X, and both vehicles still feel...

The reason I was anxious to ask about the CyberTruck is because I need the space the it me offer (i.e.: 4 in the back? And maybe 3 front)… and at the same time I read some articles about the air-ride being different in the CyberTruck. I know I am going to lose a couple features when switching...

I had the X for a ride, it was really bad (I mean, bad compared to whatever baseline I have in mind). I was just hopping that the CyberTruck is going to offer something different based in any leaks or rumors that the members might be aware of.

Thank you. This particular response, specifically from an X7 BMW user switching to Tesla, gives me the feedback that is mostly relevant to my original post. If the Ride and Comfort is superior in the BMW X7. I guess there is no reason whatsodver for me to switch to Tesla. Ride and Comfort are...

You are wrong. In both my BMWs, I can check the surrounding from my phone app (maybe not a video, but immediate live photos) that are also put in a 3D 360 surround view for me, plus individual photos from all 4 camera whenever I want. It sounds all people agree that Tesla is an inferior...

I appreciate the feedback. As a hint, I posted something similar on 2 BMW forums. I am also going to rent a Tesla for a weekend trip with family just to test it out. And then lastly I posted here too to hear from Tesla owners. I am going to collect all the data points and hopefully make a...

What technology if any does Tesla offer other than self-driving? Sorry not trying to be sarcastic, but really what technology are we talking about compared to other highend luxury brands? Other than FSD, I feel that both BMWs I have have more tech around me in the interior than Tesla. What am...

Based on feedback from all if you, does that mean that once BMW and Mercedes has most of the lunup also available in EV mode that a BMW and MBenz will be a much better options? Sounds like everyone acknowledged that BMW and Mbenz is more luxury and better in terms of offered packages and...

if I have to leave those luxury items behind (including air ride dynamic driving comfort) can you all weigh in on what will make my Tesla feel special in the future and make me forget all these things? Just trying to understand before I pull the trigger one-day soon.

I test drove a Tesla about 2 years ago. At that time, my daily drive was an S-class, and the Model X I test drove did not hold to the same drive comfort or luxury feeling I had been used to when driving the S-class. The S-class was way more comfortable and less noisy and when I tested the...

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. By switching to Tesla, I am afraid I might miss real luxury features like: Massage seats, heated/cooled cupholders, B&W speakers (but I guess Tesla has good ones?), anti-glare all-time high beam LED&laser headlights, silent cabin and zero rattles like what I...

I currently own two BMWs in my garage, and have been a BMW for long time. I have an order for a CyberTruck and thinking of trade in the BMW X7 for the CT. I have no experience with Tesla, other than me being a tech guy with 100s of hours of youtube, and generally being a car guy (but never...