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that rear neg camber looks pretty extreme...I am guess -3.0 by looks of it.

the funny thing about the M3 is this, even if it is actually slower than ICE cars, it "feels" faster due to low end torque and how instant it is....for instance my BMW M4 does 0-60 in 3.9 sec compared to my M3's 4.3 s but the model 3 just feels faster...the steering feel is tighter and more...

Thx for doing this!!!!...it really is interesting data...and I am glad you will update this...thx again.

I was going to do the same exact thing but Tesla wanted to give me 39k trade in for a 51k car and I only had 200 miles on it....what a joke.

similar story from everyone...nobody regrets moving to a model 3....after driving my m3 for a week, I thought to myself “ ice cars just seem dumb at this point”...that’s how you know the ice mkt and mindset has started its inevitable decline.

Come to think of it , for like 90% of people , can’t see how the m3d LR can’t feel better that 95% cars out there ... cause compared to my M4 , this cars steering feel is tighter and more surgical ....feels faster , tech is way better Only thing m4 does better is hard cornering with less body...

If Im being honest , there seems to way too many of these stories now to discount as just someone accidentally hitting the accelerator .. abit concerning I think we Tesla owners have a lot of incentive to not believe these stories but it’s abit concerning to me anyway.

Looks good !.. had no idea SSR was still in business ... had ssr 3 piece wheels on my e46 M3 back in the day .

Guess I’m the odd one then... most people appear to be stepping up to M3 price wise anyway ... not too many coming from a sportscar .

i am curious cause many prob feel its Prius and Volt/Leaf owners but I have a feeling many sportscar owners switched to the M3. Please list what car you used to drive or sold to get the model 3 and which model 3 you bought ! I sold my BMW M4 and I’m glad I did... I have awd m3 long range but...

some people have had their cars totaled once diminished value and loss of use is considered...if it takes a long time for repair they have to pay for a rental of equivalent value otherwise the dollars can add up for insurance...Im not sure how much damage was done but it can get up to 10K real...

but I have never heard of a model 3 having this sound before...could be your noise is unrelated to the people that have model S and X's.

there is like a 50 page thread on model S and X message board about this clicking sound under hard acceleration...esp when car sitting up higher...people getting half shafts and jackshaft replace only to have it happen again...there appears to be no fix and Tesla's stance is that it is normal...

Hey Beastmode, did you install a BBK for the fronts and rears?????

my 5K showed up today also

me too...from few weeks ago..I got 1000 only

I really like everything about the m3 itself, but if there is one complaint I have with Tesla(unacceptable imho) is that you have to have people answer the damn phones at the service center...they don't answer, return emails or calls...only to get them to respond is to drive out here and talk...

There is like a 50 page thread about clicking noise coming front front suspension area on model S and X boards..it is a very well known prob in which there isn't a reliable fix evidently...about 1/3rd of the people seem to have it(based a poll)...may not be the same issue as model 3 owners as...

what does ACH stand for???

I paid for entire amount with personal check...they wanted direct deposit which I said fine to, but they had computer issue sat delivery center so I paid with personal check...all car companies I have dealt with in the past have accepted personal checks...BMW, Honda, Mini, Acura.

Nope, the fronts went on without any issues so this can be done. Weird thing is this, I haven't found a single member on here that has swapped out the rears for perf. brakes...I find that odd...this also means that you couldn't upgrade rears with Brembo's or Stoptech or any other after market...

T sportline ...so 1 inch drop front and rear.

The car is dropped 1 inch front and rears...the tires are 245/35/20 and 275/30/20...wheels are 20 x 8.5 and 20 x 10.0...weights are supposedly 24 and 25 lbs. Long story but I bought the awd long range cause I got a good deal on a inventory car and I had a deposit on model Y performance...so I...

No its not a p3...its a long range dual motor...but I have OEM perf brakes up front but rear OEM perf brakes wouldn't work so I had to put stock ones back on but did get them painted.

Glad I went with the T Sportline springs....just enough of a drop for me without the rear sag.

well I am coming close to converting to p3...on lowering springs, have 20 inch wheels, have oem perf brakes....just need my software released by elon!!!

They are AG M652 flow formed(matte graphite) in 20 x8.5, 20 x 10....rep said they weigh 24/25 lbs but I didnt get a chance to actually weigh them to confirm....very happy with the color and offset perfect as they sit pretty flush.

I bought performance brakes mostly for 90% for looks and 10% for actual performance...I didn't realize the putting on one rear performance brakes would pose such a problem ...I bet there is a work around for this...so nobody has upgraded the rears with Brembo and Stoptech's???...If done, I'd be...

so not a single e person has upgraded their non-P car on here???....has anyone upgraded their brakes to a BBK(Brembo, Stoprech) at all????

More specifically the rear brakes???. I ended up buying front and rear OEM performance brakes and the fronts installed without a hitch, but the rears are posing a problem. I was told the e-brake wouldn't work properly and my installer talked to the Tesla mobile tech guy and he said he didn't...

I tried to do exact same thing for my dual motor long range that I paid 47500 for but could order for 51000 at the time...this was literally 6 weeks ago...car had 200 miles on it...they said they give me 40K in trade in....I passed.

anyone know what the MSRP cost is of front and rear performance brakes???

that looks like the perfect amount of drop to my eyes...just about right.

Normally I'd agree with you 100% as previous M3's and S4's didn't stop any faster with BBK's but they help a lot with brake fade...but on this car I am wondering if it actually will, cause the OEM non-P brakes dont seem very responsive and not a lot of bite with even modest pedal...

so serious question for everyone, are there any decent options for rear brakes???...hard to find only OEM rear performance brakes online ...any decent after mkt options other than standard Brembo or Stoptech which prob cost 2500???...anyone know the cost of rear perf brakes if you order from...

Haha...so you're that guy!...:)...,too old to pose...considering Ive had 6 M3/4's, S4, Carrera 4S, Lotus Elise...dont need to pose, but I do like performance and handling...wheels and tires I got will look better and be lighter hence less unsprung weight...springs will reduce body roll..the...

So nobody answered my question .. other than software , it’s just springs, brakes and wheels right ??... I heard the motors were the same on perf and non perf cars

1. Long story but I bought my car cause I got a great great deal on it.. like 7k off of msrp... there were no good deals a month ago on perf m3’s... other reason was cause I have deposit down for model Y perf so I was only going to drive this car for 2 years 2. Had my salesman look for perf...

So I have the LR AWD version, but I just added T Sportline springs(1 inch drop), bought OEM perf brakes in red, upgraded wheels to 20 inch but lighter than stock performance wheels. So other that software)meaning no 0-60 in 3.5 secs), is there anything else I will be missing?. Just a curiosity...

Hmm...guess I am confused...I thought it was used the hub inner hb diameter isn't 64.1 mm's so this adapter was inserted to make the hub core diameter 64.1 mm's???...am I thinking about this totally wrong????

So I am looking at buying 20 inch after market wheel and the looks and price is right. But it uses a hub ring adapter as the bub opening for model 3 is 64.1 mm's. Has anyone done this before?. Safe?. Dont want wheel vibration obviously. Seller/vendor says all wheels from this manufacturer uses...

I am ready to order a 20 inch wheel that I like for decent price but they use a hub ring adapter for the wheel. They said they do use adapter for all their wheels for the most part and haven't had any issues. They have sold many sets for the model S and 3. Do you guys think this is...

I absolutely agree with this...only part of my car thats bit disappointing are the brakes...just doesn't stop fast enough for such a heavy car.

No I am actually talking about factory performance brake specs vs non-performance brakes from factory.

Does anyone know the caliper size and rotor dimensions of the performance red brakes vs non-performance calipers and rotors???....I am assuming its more than just a red paint job?....tia.

that's a lot of extra unsprung weight difference..car will be slower with those wheels..will feel like you have an extra 100 lb passenger in the car with you with those wheels.

I was in your shoes 3 weeks ago and did exactly that. I had my deposit on model Y first but after driving the model 3 I ended buying it knowing I'd sell it in 2 years when Y comes out. But I made sure I got a great deal and got 6500K off of msrp new on dual long range...this way the...

I have owned every version of the bmw M3 and just sold my M4 to get into the model 3 I don’t miss the M4 at all. Dont even miss my loud exhaust . Model 3 feels faster to me even if it isn’t . The M4 handles abit better cause it has less body roll and is more nimble and the brakes are much...