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Well this is disappointing. Especially when I want to buy now but the performance/ludicrous won’t be out for a while. I definitely don’t want a slower car.

Summary - nobody’s getting V12 for a while. Go on about your lives and check in in a week or so. A stupid decision by Tesla to release the most significant update in FSD history to a random selection of people has ruined it for the rest of us.

Never mind. Just found it. Also read an interesting comment on the video. Of ALL the versions to release first to the small OG tester group (chuck, dirty Tesla, AI driver, etc.) this was the version to do so. This is by far the most significant change in the build, and they (seemingly randomly...

Anyone have a link to the parking lot crash?

It's such BS that they took away the USS so early. It's been forever since they did this and people are still getting cars without basic summon. It's crazy frankly.

Does the highland LR have acceleration boost in the US? I don’t want to “upgrade” to a slower car from my LR with acceleration boost.

The map data they use is utter trash. They need to get a better partner for map data if they are going to use it at all for FSD. Surprisingly, Apple Maps consistently gives better routes than whatever Tesla uses. Tesla follows the routes that google maps does, so either they are pulling from...

Engineers have come out saying that that button is a placebo.

Hmmm. No I do think they use google for routing to some degree. There are multiple, specific routing errors in my local area that google maps and google maps alone makes. Hop in the Tesla, and it also makes these same routing errors. Apple Maps, Waze (which is interesting since they are owned by...

LR 3 2021. I don’t know which one I was pushed because it’s no longer on the car.

Have they pulled the update AGAIN! It has once again disappeared from my car. 2021 LR 3

Have they pulled the update AGAIN! It has once again disappeared from my car.

What does this mean though? You can already do this in some way. How is this any different than regular auto park. This is very different than the “reverse summon” we were promised. Doesn’t actually sound that cool tbh.

What the title says. I’m in the US and just pre-planning on weather I will want to wait for a performance or not. I got acceleration boost on my LR 3 and now am spoiled😂.

Same thing happened here. Wild.

Had the same thing here but I’m a 2021 LR 3

Ok this is really weird. I had the update pushed to my car. I wasn’t on WiFi so it wasn’t downloading. I moved the car closer to the router and it started downloading. I then left town for the day and came back to no sign of the update whatsoever. “Your car software is up to date as of xxx...

And not even today really (Disney+). You are buying a car that could have features taken away. Kinda insane and awful for customers and investors.

How does the atom have the gpu for FSD visuals (heck even MCU1 does), but not the vision park assist? Kinda pissed about this in my December 2020 built 3 (USS, Atom). Admittedly, the atom is really starting to show its age. Watching YouTube or anything in the theater is godawful. Don’t even get...

I don’t think it’s possible that the wipers can get any worse than 11.7.3.

Because 11.4.7 is already a thing that the OG beta testers are on.

How in the world are you getting 260 wh/mile at 80-85 mph! Especially on these pilots? Is it even possible? I have the same tires and at 85 I average like 330wh/mile (2021 LR model 3). Are you sure you are cruising 80-85? If so, what is your secret my friend?

Just for anyone wondering, Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4s are very much not efficient. At 28k miles, the mxm4s were done on LR model 3's 18s. I was extremely disappointed with their tread life. I wanted to try a sportier tire so I got the pilots. Yes, they are sportier, but I am truly...

What really is the problem when it comes to stopping right now is jerk. A firm slowdown can actually feel ok as long as the car doesn’t slam on the brakes. Honestly, if the car reacted the way it does now but without slamming on the brakes at the start of the stop, it wouldn’t be perfect, but it...

What's interesting is that my 2021 was rated for 353 miles new, but I have the old 75kwh battery. Now the cars have an 82 kWh battery and are only rated for 333 miles. The car switched from the old Atom to the new Ryzen processor which did lower range, but shouldn't a significantly larger...

Proof? The car is nearly traction limited so it is kind of hard to believe that they would do this/this happened. If they could make the car faster they would. Plaid is no longer the quickest road vehicle, lucid air sapphire holds that crown (and maybe the rimac nevera depending on what you...

This is still an issue on 2021 model 3s. This is insane. I am about to go in to have my compressor replaced for the second time. Car has 39k miles.

What happens at the current moment if you strikeout? I know in the past you were out of luck until the deity that is Elon decided it was time to give you a second chance. Is there a hard strikeout time now? I currently have 3 strikes so I'm a bit on the nervous side. Ive had beta since 10.2 in 2021.

I agree with this. However, if it isn’t fixed with v12 then I’ll be convinced it’s a sensor issue.

Look. Take your car out to a highway that has a 55 limit and go 60. Then continue until you approach stopped traffic (probably behind a red light). You will find that the car aggressively slams the brakes. I don’t care about the numbers that they quote. A camera has no definite “limit” as to how...

This happens frequently on highways. Say there is a wreck ahead and people have stopped. It’s happened to me. Also, as I said, it’s uncomfortable at significantly lower speeds as well.

Radar is 100% needed at least for the sake of long range perception. Currently, if you approach stopped traffic at 85 mph with fsd on, the car waits until the very last minute to stop and abruptly SLAMS on the brakes and scares the living bejesus out of everyone in the car. The braking is so...

Yes. This is the problem. Ever watched a televised sports game being played in the rain. You literally cannot see the rain. It has to do with camera focus etc. I’ve known that it would be impossible to detect rain with cameras since day one because of this.

What FSDb (or j or whatever) are you one? Whatever you do if you have working auto-wipers don’t change anything lol.

If I remember correctly 4:50 is the stamp where you can easily see the driver manipulating the steering wheel. The car also takes off at speeds far greater than we have ever seen from FSD.

You can easily see the drivers hands manipulate the steering wheel multiple times on these turns. They are most likely collecting training data, or using the cameras to 3-d model the turn for simulations.

Anyone else been getting the camera visibility message late at night on dark roads? It’s a super annoying issue because it oscillates in and off constantly. It seems that between this and the godawful autowipers on 11.4.7 they may be having some sort of deeper visibility issue.

Surely this isn’t the new multi-camera autowiper network we were promised that would fix all our previous problems?

I must ask, how are you getting 236 Wh/mile? I average around 300-310 at 80mph and 250 at 60mph in my LR. Then again, I did put stickier tires on it (Michelin pilot sport all season 4s) at 30k miles.

Hello, I have a 2021 Model 3 and just bought the acceleration boost and am loving it! It got me wondering, since I am thinking about upgrading to a highland when it becomes available in the US, will it have the option for acceleration boost as well? I know they lowered the top speed of the...

I did the trip with no stopping at all. Man, 15 percent over 35k miles is just crazy. I get 317 miles reported at full (however this only happened recently, it hung around 329 for a long time but now it is tanking). When I first got the car I was much less knowledgeable about all these things...

Hello. I want to start this off by saying that I understand these cars and I get that the batteries don't last forever, etc etc. However, I know that the media tends to be saying that these cars don't have batteries that degrade that much. From these articles, I was expecting about 4-8 percent...

At this point, everyone knows about chuck’s turn and the “median network” that came from it. Below is a turn that I have. When turning left off of drysdale drive onto the horizontal road, the car just blows through the turn withought stopping, even though it clearly cannot see cross traffic...

I like everything except I think I’ll need to see the front in person. To make a call on it. Not too sure about it tbh. Also new aero wheels are godawful.

I’ll never forget about 2 years ago I was driving at 40 mph on an extremely foggy road at night with autopilot on. I was staring at the road ready to brake for cars at any moment. All of a sudden, autopilot slammed on the brakes. I had no idea what it was stopping for but I let it do its thing...

Not noticing your first issue, I still have the opposite problem. As for your second problem, yes, this has happened to me on occasion.

Forget UPLs, UPRs are a consistent fail in certain situations as well. All down to terrible creeping behavior. In some situations it will make the right turn into the wrong lane. Driving is hard.

I wonder when there will be an obvious difference in hw3 vs hw4 performance? I think it’s a pretty awful idea for them to try and keep supporting both platforms. It’s pure nightmare fuel from a software engineer’s standpoint. They either need to give people with hw3 their money back or give...

I would very much trust my car with this animal vs FSDj:

Yes it seems that 11.4.x is a failed project and they have moved on… The wait continues.