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  1. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I'm not a charts guy but the answer to that seems to be "highly influential" if you've been watching Tesla for the past year. We very frequently bounce off technical indicators down to the dollar. I sure up leveraged a week+ ago on the 50DMA. PS we're about to golden cross on the MACD on battery...
  2. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Alright, here's my own theory on the recent cap raise. A high stock price does what for a company? Namely the ability to raise money cheaply? So while Tesla is in hyper growth mode, they're going to need tens of thousands of new employees to fill up these massive factories and energy build out...
  3. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    They can exercise and sell immediately, I was forced into this once after they failed to send my sell to close order to the market. I had ITM calls and did not have the cash to purchase 15,000 pre split shares... Did not enjoy this in my account over the weekend, mind you I had the funds from...
  4. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I wish you wouldn't. Reminds me of a certain somebody. :)
  5. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Kimbal Musk and Jerome Guillen sold respectively about 9.9M and 7.5M dollars worth of shares on Tuesday, filings just appeared in my inbox. Probably not massive stakes for them but worth pointing out.
  6. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Awfully kind of them to let somebody else aboard the gain train. Maybe they have enough :) I hope they spend it well!
  7. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Re- "locking in gains" I have to wonder if this is part of the reason the wealthy just get wealthier. I absolutely understand if you have 500k in TSLA, it's life changing, and you run the risk of dropping 50% or something so locking in seems to be the safe play. But in the case where someone...
  8. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Goals for the day. If you know - you know.
  9. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    On second thought.....Maybe Monday is better. RBC is no fun! Shares still unchanged
  10. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It wasn't a very expensive mistake, you'll be alright. I cut my portfolio down by 80% (I mainly play calls) on the BS that happened around 2019 Q2 P/D report. If I had actually made money through that ER, my account could be 40x what it currently is, which...I cannot fathom. TLDR I was sad for a...
  11. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It doesn't count as realized gains until you sell the newly acquired shares which could be 10 years from now, as opposed to selling to close the call, you would then owe taxes on those gains in this tax year.
  12. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    We're not over the Bollinger Band currently? I see 2067 right now.
  13. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    OT - Canadian Taxes After hiring a $500/h accountant I learned that due to the amount of trades I made this year (150+) the CRA may (likely) define my income as "business income" as opposed to capital gains. This makes me responsible to pay the full 50% income tax as opposed to 25% capital gains...
  14. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Fun fact AAPL is UP >100B today alone. Also AAPL gained about 1.16T from March, where Tesla gained 313B. Makes the argument for Tesla's climb a little easier, I don't really follow AAPL but it boggles my mind that they could gain that much valuation when I understand how fast Tesla is growing...
  15. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The real downside nobody is talking about here is that this meme will be less impressive soon. Still good though. Sorry I have nothing of value to add, kinda like a split but it's gonna go up anyways :) there should be a reversal right about now off the lower BB ( SP 1537 as of posting)
  16. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I would suggest it would become 5 november 20 300 calls that deliver 100 shares each. Hopefully unless you know otherwise. No need to create special options that become hard to trade, the exception to the rule being a non conventional split ie 3:2 etc would create an option to buy 75 shares at...
  17. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Haha afraid not, but they did see it as a bullish sign especially mixed in with the likely SP500 inclusion.
  18. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Some higher ups in my bank got back to me on this. Said not to worry, I would have 5x the amount of calls on the 28th, monetary value will remain the same. "The wording is largely a formality and equivalent to just a straight stock split at a specific ratio" edit - I also put in a request for...
  19. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Let's just assume TSLA is at 1500 on the 28th, if you still hold 25 shares (37.5K) , the day after the split you will now own 125 shares, each worth 300 (37.5K).
  20. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Not really what I meant unfortunately, I already hold (mostly) LEAPS. It would be tragic if tomorrow they're worth 20% of today's value. Anywho, Stock splits and options - Option Trading FAQ is suggesting "In general, adjustments are made for options whenever there is a stock dividend, stock...
  21. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Are you familiar with this language? I was not expecting the "dividend" part. In a traditional split option holders would receive 5x as many options, they would all be valued at 1/5 of current, to be net neutral. Is this a traditional split?
  22. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Is this the "normal" stock split. Wondering about the wording of dividends in there: "declared a five-for-one split of Tesla’s common stock in the form of a stock dividend" Just wondering regarding call options and LEAPS. I can assume 1/5 the strike price and 5x as many options for each...
  23. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Re Rob Maurer's video on the SP500, anything between 10 and 90 days is totally within the realm of normal for inclusion after meeting the requirements. Average being around 43 if I recall. Repost for those that missed it - So we've likely got a month before it happens.
  24. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Why does that worry you? Elon's expertise is not in valuing equities, If anything this was great relief that he had a new answer maybe after some talks with board members etc. When you're winning a race, one of the worst things you can do is constantly look behind you wondering where the...
  25. Ameliorate

    You're suddenly well off, your lifelong friends are not. Now what?

    The key to fitness is just finding something you enjoy and can see yourself doing 5+ years from now. Maybe hill sprints and burpees are super effective but if you hate it, you wont stick with it and the results wont be as good over time as ie joining a team sport. In the end, if you like...
  26. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Not too worried about after hours movement, but so far loving this call. Elon seems in a very good mood, trying to recruit talent and companies to help expand Tesla's growth. While some of you hoping for a cap raise and to build 10 more factories like...it sounds fine and good but where do all...
  27. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I'd be curious to see this plotted from 2013-2014. It's fairly obvious Tesla was worth more than 300 in 2019, fair value had to be closer to 700+ fun exercise though. I was trying to explain the underlying value of the company to family looking like one of your projections with a rising...
  28. Ameliorate

    You're suddenly well off, your lifelong friends are not. Now what?

    Who said anything about talking about it? if your friends all drive 20 year old beater cars and you buy a 2020 tesla and a house, you don't have to say "hey I have x dollars" for them to realize something is different. Hence the thread.
  29. Ameliorate

    You're suddenly well off, your lifelong friends are not. Now what?

    Right? To be clear this is hypothetical and is absolutely putting the cart before the horse but if Tesla does go to 5 digits and beyond I'm sure a lot of people here will have "more than they need problem". I think there are a lot of interesting ideas here and that was kinda the whole idea...
  30. Ameliorate

    You're suddenly well off, your lifelong friends are not. Now what?

    I feel like I've already chosen friends/family over wealth in not revealing/spending it with concerns of jealousy etc. I would rather keep these people in my life than have the shiny new thing. Ideally I'd like to help them make the jump towards better finances so we can all live more freely and...
  31. Ameliorate

    You're suddenly well off, your lifelong friends are not. Now what?

    A little risky in that they decline or feel indebted but thank you for the reply!
  32. Ameliorate

    You're suddenly well off, your lifelong friends are not. Now what?

    Exactly. And that is one perfectly acceptable way to go about it. Hoping others may provide some clues for other options. Feels like there could be better options than keeping this from everyone we know, like being able to share it with them .... but how? I think that's a legitimate point that...
  33. Ameliorate

    You're suddenly well off, your lifelong friends are not. Now what?

    Love it, thanks for registering just for that. So five years from now lets say you've got 4 mil in Tesla and your friends are still renting maybe just paid off their schooling. You want the car and so do all your friends, now you can easily buy the car. You know what I mean? It gets weird...
  34. Ameliorate

    You're suddenly well off, your lifelong friends are not. Now what?

    Just curious how some of you may have navigated this. I'm doing quite alright but suspect that gap will widen significantly in the coming years with $TSLA. I skirted the subject with a best friend, wondering how one with a financial advantage could help another get ahead. Or at the very least...
  35. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I've been here a while, I don't think those figures make you the largest investor around here, in fact I know a few dealing in larger numbers and I'm sure there are many I don't know about. It's just not wise to disclose your net worth for your own safety. Don't want to see anyone hacked, robbed...
  36. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Bottom of the store page where it says "united states" have to switch to canadian website, re login, it's a hassle but that seemed to work. I found this out after ordering to a PO in washington :(
  37. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I caught one snapshot earlier ^^ This is insane. Today's gains absolutely dwarf my entire account value from a year ago by more than 10X. Unreal, I thought I missed the boat with a botched trade last Q2. Also:
  38. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    slight OT Chamath talking about buying the industry leader vs the #2, 3 and 4rth companies. Starts at 33:40 https://unchainedpodcast.com/chamath-palihapitiya-why-bitcoin-will-be-the-category-winner/ TLDR: The lions share of gains go to the industry leader. Just buy the industry leader and hope...
  39. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Most important part! I don't even work there and I get paid huge!
  40. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I don't go over either with a fine tooth comb. To me Tesla's look much better. I don't think you understood what I was going for since you gave me a disagree. Main point being very minor fit and finish issues are so low on my priority list that I hardly care. Sure it'd be nice if they were...
  41. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Holy. Everybody running around with micrometers and a certified paint inspector. It's not a 2 million dollar rolls royce. The goal is to transition to sustainable transportation/energy. If dropping the sticker price by 5k means a few swirls/defects but doubles the customer base, Tesla better...
  42. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Not sure we need a bunch of self driving cars with robot snakes just yet. I have a bit more I want to do before I come some AI's "pet" Looking like a pretty predictable 1000 close
  43. Ameliorate

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I rarely use the "maximum" timeframe for anything TA related but I will note that the upper bollinger band for the max time is 1014.50 right now, while the normal one we often see (Monthly) ie @Artful Dodger is around 971. We broke out above the Max bollinger in early Jan 2020 490ish, and...