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If you drive with a leadfoot the battery will actually give less total energy than if you drive with an egg under your foot. High wattage/amperage leads to energylosses and battery inefficiencies. Also vampire-drain, sentrymode, etc etc doesnt show in the energy used so measuring this over...

What? Is the Model 3-drivetrain that much more efficient? I haven't been paying too much attention to the 3 due to its size, but that is amazing if correct... Anyway, I am silently hoping to strike the jackpot of a midlife facelift for the X combined with a new battery. If they start using...

Same here. If a 130kwh-battery came out I would order a replacement for my P85D instantly*. Will be looking to replace it early 2019, and a bigger battery is the main wish on my list. Most likely switching to a Model X if the battery is big enough. *assuming the price doesnt skyrocket.

This was my exact reaction to this response from JohnMc:) Reminds me of the good old days! Lets hope this is a sign of things to come, and not a one off thing. I have been very vocal in the past about Tesla not adressing similar issues/concerns, and this is a real step towards the golden path...

Due to the lack of P85DEE-entertainment in this thread its either that or a very close cousin;) The "sue them" or "do something about it"-arguments are strangely similar.... How he managed to offrail the thread into a completely off-topic Elon Musk-twitter quiz/transparency discussion is also...

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Yes, its interesting to see that 3-4weeks waiting is considered really bad in the US:) we would be cheering out of joy and celebrating in the streets for such a short waiting period! Here in Norway we regularly see people reporting 3-6months waiting for service appointments as well as...

I cannot let this one slide.. I dont think you have the slightest clue about what you are talking about here. Some of the guys who started the whole "complaining and whining" about the 10.9-number are indeed seasoned drag-racers. One of them is actually the guy who runs dragtimes.com and has...

Those look fantastic! Any pics from further away showing the entire car?

Seems like this is the way they operate here in Norway at least. Never heard of anyone waiting long for delivery, but wait times for service is easily 3-6months on most service centers here. Has been like this for years now. Obviously they prioritise getting cash for new deliveries....

official nasdaq.com shows these spikes as well.

Most likely 90% due to the forex-rate towards the USD making the cars absurdly more expensive since launch. An ok equipped 90D costs quite a lot more these days than I paid for my P85D.. ... A P90D now is almost 50% more than I paid... It used to be "cheap" , but now it isnt anymore... I dont...

Oh yes:( sold at 209 and sitting here very confused at the moment....

Oh, I just realised i put my comment about Norwegian rulings yesterday in the wrong "needs an asterix"-thread:( Sorry for that! Should of course have been in the 691hp-thread..... But I think Andy indirectly corrected my mistake by crossposting it into thecorrect one:) so thanks to him as well:)

Please remember that the rulings here are based on the individual claims. My claim was similar, but with lower amounts. Otherwise your comments are correct. The ruling frmo the commision is legally binding to both parties unless Tesla brings it to the courts. Tesla has actually used hired...

Hehe, the inner child in me really want the underline for my badge more than extra shares;) no matter what I have some cash ready to buy more stock, but brexxit has gotten me a bit hesitant to put more in any stock at the moment.

Was referring to paying legal fees if they lose in court. In addition to the compensation. PR-hit was mainly that the newspaper jump at every chance of producing a negative articla with Tesla in the heading... But enough of me derailing here. Hope it has no effect at all and that I get an...

Wrong thread to discuss the details, but the ruling is more or less identical to my objections last year. The commision find it proven that Tesla on purpose used the 700hp-number for all it was worth without explaining that the car came nowhere near delivering it from the battery. Once again we...

No nothing on the P90DL, but the quarter mile isnt something that many people here really care about in the first place. I dont think there even is a dedicated dragstrip here. Old airstrips are used, but not by regular people. Horsepower and 0-100 are the numbers we care about here. Smart or...

Hope you are correct on the share price. Its the "caught selling with wrong specs"-angle I worried about. Not the direct monetary loss. Hope Tesla realize they risk paying much much more if they appeal. Most companies follow the rulings given by the commision according to the stats. And yes I...

Seems like the commision ruled against Tesla in all of the cases. Might get some media-coverage in Norway at least. Interesting to see if this is even a blip on the price of TSLA. Full disclosure, I am one of the people that got a ruling in my favor here.... But I have more invested in the...

First rulings done in Norways consumer disputes commision it seems. Tesla must pay 50000NOK(~6000USD) to the owners in these rulings as far as I can see. Tesla now has 4weeks to decide if they want to continue by draggin this into the courts or end it by paying the owners according to the...

Wow, is this algobots gone mad? I put in a buy-order at 228.5 "for fun" when it showed 233.xx.... A couple of minutes later I got an email that it went through! *confused*

My gutfeeling says the model 3 wont be hud-only. That part of the prototype looked way to concept-car to me. Especially with how the model x turned out fresh in mind.

Why does it have to be a choice? Most cars with HUDs also have a regular instrument cluster as well. I would love to have a HUD similar to that of newer BMWs and similar in addition to todays setup.

Oh my, where is the signup-line for a retroactive nosejob?

I panicked by the word "recall" and put a sell order at 250. Got sold before the next page got refreshed:( dang that was fast...

This actually looks like a virus/scamsite that I've seen a few users get at work a few times. Everchanging urls and always offering ipads/iphones etc as prices in an attempt to get you to click. Never seen it on an actual iphone though.

Totally agree, but the statement I replied to was that the competition didnt have hatches at all in the same series;) Fully understand it if Tesla ends up with this design by choosing headrom over hatch. Had I been in the market for a 3 I would have wanted a hatch, but I am not... New roadster...

Yes, no doubt very different markets. I personally never understood why americans dont want the extra cargospace and ease of use of the hatch-opening. I had an Audi A5 coupe for a couple of years that had a similar trunk to the Model 3 and it was a hassle when moving stuff. Then again not...

BMW has the GT-version of the 3-series as well as the Touring-stationwagon versions in the same series. Audi has the Avant-stationwagon version of the A4. Mercedes has the CLA shooting brake as well as the station wagon C-class. All with hatches.. Not saying the Model 3 needs a hatch, but the...

Haha, this red dot thing has irritated me a bit lately until I yesterday figured out the "link-avatar" did the same function. Now finding out that clicking the link does the same is very good news:) that is an awesome improvement for me! Now I just need the watched threads-links to be a part...

wowsers this is exiting to follow:)

Better than the old design. I simply like it. I've never used Tapatalk if that is what you were thinking of. Tried tapatalk once, but gave up after 2minutes.

I actually like the new look and feel better and better for each day. Dont miss the old setup at all now that I've found my usual links such as watched threads and new posts. Getting more post per page would be nice, but not a big deal:) its heaps better on ipad/iphone which is where I spend 98%...

Dont really disagree about any of the other points such as door pockets, adaptive lights, missing HUD and the horrible cupholder-placement among many nitpicks. But the center console is a feature I really hate in most newer cars as it makes my right leg go to sleep on longer drives. Driving the...

You missed the point. Your post described those with a different view as someone who had fooled themselves into believing they didnt need the console. Leaving no room for opposite views being ratinal. Leading to your view being the only rational one. Backing it up with majority rules/tesla...

Time to get off your high horse there. This has to be one of the most condescending post I've seen in a while here. You swiftly and simply dismiss other peoples opinions differing from yours as people fooling themselves. I have no problem understanding people wanting a console, but at the same...

Hahahha, stop it both of you. Cant stop laughing:)

Hehehe, but I'd almost count that as being undercover;)

I reeeeally hope that was a pitiful attempt at online humour... if not let me help you: http://bfy.tw/4fHW http://bfy.tw/4fHg

A quick search on google shows some gigantic hands! Edit: dirks own post/response wins the day. And that google-search is something nanoak should do;)

Hahahaha, if there ever was a "mine is bigger than yours"-competition, as mentioned upthread, this post would most likely serve as the biggest can of whoop*** ever:)

As one of those that started the derailing of the thread here the point wasnt really if Tesla is bad or not in terms of OSS-licenses etc.. It was a simple way of pointing out that some die hard Tesla supporters were crying at wk057 sayin "you are messing with or stealing from Teslas licensed...

Ah, that explains my somewhat spotty memory here:)

If I remember correctly, from Dirks previous post on this subject, the userinterface is built using Qt and similar license-issue are applicable there, but my memory might be flawed on this subject.

If you dont want said info to go public, then yes its an issue to distribute this info to thousands of customers. Tesla is in my view lucky that wk057 discovered this and not someone out to hurt Tesla and/or TSLA. Why? Because it seems that wk shared only the most boring part of what he...

Dont think it can be repeated enought times in a thread where people attack wk057, among other angles of attack, for breaking Tesla licenses etc when Tesla themselves obviously dont really care about license-terms for the open source software they choose to use in their cars. Especially when...

Quoted for truth as this was extremely well put:) should be a sticky post almost!

Just to add a different perspective here on the issue on potentially violating tesla software-licsenses or not. According to several reputable members here it is well-known that Tesla themselves do not abide to several GNU/linux and similar licensing schemes in their own implementation of open...