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By the time I got back to the car in the evening camera, AP and tracking were all working. Got home and updated to 50.7 without a problem.

This happened to me on 50.1 as well. Tried reboot twice with no success...will try hard reset tonight. I also have the 50.7 update waiting.

Note to California purchasers...CA does not charge tax on downloaded software purchases. So just $2k.

The interesting thing about it was that the hitch point is lower on the MX than the F150. So the back of the Ford would have been pulled down for more traction while the back of the MX would have been lifted for less. But I think the MX does outweigh the F150 by at least 100 lbs.

Model X against F150 4x4 Watch Ford F-150 4x4 Lose In Tug Of War Battle To Tesla Model X

Many people are estimating the Cybertruck’s efficiency similar to the Model X. Even if that estimate is slightly off, this chart would still show a Cybertruck to be 100x less polluting than an F150 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELLQ0wyUwAATyTL.jpg

So if the body panels are part of the stressed skin design, that would include the roof. Which is why if they were going with an all glass roof it would have to be the “transparent steel” glass - so it could take the stress and add strength. This is just my guess.

The photos make it pretty clear there is a continuous top rail from each end to the apex, and the sheet metal is attached to it. It runs the length of the truck on each side. I don’t think it’s just there for looks.

You’re right... something like a “stressed skin” on on a fuselage design? It’s never been done on a truck before so I don’t think you can look at a body on frame design and compare the metal thickness of the frame at certain points with the metal on the skin of the CT body.

Yes, but you are comparing a body on frame truck to a unibody truck. The CT uses a unibody also to make it lighter than body on frame, probably by 15-20%. I imagine this is how they get away with offering an EV truck with a heavy 100+kWh battery at the same weight as an F150. Can you name any...

I don't think it's all about the aerodynamics. The Ridgeline is a unibody, but it can only handle a 1500 lb payload and tow 5000 lbs - the CT can handle 3500 lbs and tow at least 7500 lbs. Part of it's strength reportedly comes from the triangle truss unibody shape.

Cybertruck Giulia Quadrifoglio The Giulia Quadrifoglio has a drag coefficient of Cd=0.32. So the CT "with extreme effort" could end up with a better cd than the Giulia. That's funny. Part of that is because they want more traction so they're forcing it down, I suppose.

Elon stated that the CT weighs the same as an F150 so as little as 4000lbs or as much as 5600lbs, but definitely not 7000lbs. Anyway, here are some renderings for you so you can visualize (source: Tesla Cybertruck Fifth-Wheel RV Trailer Rendering Is Electrifying):

CT DM will replace F250 Powerstroke diesel I modified in 2005 to run on vegetable oil. Sources for cheap used fry oil dried up after 2010 so I mostly run it on diesel now which makes me cringe each time I start it up because I’m probably undoing all the good I did driving the M3 all month. For...

This link is to two Motortrend articles - the first one references 14 inches of travel and 6 inches of air-ride adjustability, although they refer to the lowest position as “kneel” which may refer to the “load mode” rather than a driving mode. The second article talks about which motors are...

Found a reference to 4” travel between low and high position (12”-16”) attributed to Tesla here: A very serious cfd effort on Cybertruck : teslamotors Included in a discussion about this study: Cybertruck Simulation: Deal or Dud? | GoEngineer

I saw somewhere a comment attributed to Elon that the suspension lowers as speed increases. In his presentation he said “you can go very low or very high, so you can be efficient on the highway” which alluded to that. I haven’t seen anything about what the lowest would be or at what speed, but...

Cd: Elon says as low as .30. Some won’t say, but think it’s lower than most trucks Tesla Cybertruck Aerodynamics Explored In Detail Some think it more like .38 CFD Analysis of Tesla Cybertruck Some think .47 CFD Analysis of Tesla's Cybertruck : Infographics

Yes, I suppose I mangled it a bit. My hope is that someone should be able to figure battery size based on what is known: should be able to get exact dimensions of tonneau by studying photos Charge rate based on 25 Watts per sq ft. Total miles gained per day is 15 Best guess as to number of...

Ok, revision: Solar panels produce a charge at a rate of 25 Watts per sq ft per hour 1 sqft = 25 Watts/hr 40 sqft = 1000 Watts/hr So 8000 Watts for 8 hours. Which would be a much larger battery getting only 15 miles per 8000 Watts charge rate. But that also places it outside the stated weight...

Agreed; I apologize for feeding the troll. I have estimated the battery size to be more comparable to the Model S rather than the X, though: Elon Musk tweeted that a solar power tonneau cover option would be available that would provide 15 miles per day. I decided to try using this estimate...

You’re arguing in circles, man...and still no sources.

And, comparing the efficiency of an EV car to an ICE car is sort of pointless, but not for the reasons you suggest. EVs are ridiculously more efficient than ICE vehicles: a gallon of gas contains about 132,000 btu’s worth of energy, or 38kWh. So a 75kWh battery contains about the equivalent...

Ok, I provided some sources for my claims (right here and in previous post). Can you provide any (reputable) source for your claim the EVs create pollution in the same amounts as ICE vehicles when all things are factored in? Everything I have read on the subject calculates that EVs still...

That’s all true but my point wasn’t ultimately how efficient are EVs over ICE with all things considered, but rather why set a government MPGe-type minimum for EVs while they are still only 1% of cars on the road, and multiple times more efficient that any ICE vehicle. When EVs reach 50% of...

Armored undercarriage

An enhanced birdseye view with a trailer would solve so many problems when backing up. Does anyone know if the current software shows a trailer in birdseye view? I don’t have a hitch so I can’t test it.

An ICE vehicle in total is 80% inefficient, 50% from the powertrain (sorry, not drivetrain). “EVs convert about 59%–62% of the electrical energy from the grid to power at the wheels. Conventional gasoline vehicles only convert about 17%–21% of the energy stored in gasoline to power at the...

There seems to be a lot of guesswork over the design and capabilities of the Cybertruck against what was actually stated, so I’ve created this list from the transcript of the presentation, along with any relevant tweets from Musk. After all, even Neil deGrasse Tyson got it wrong when he claimed...

Yes, this makes no sense. Ice vehicles have a 50% efficiency loss just in the drivetrain, so EVs are already twice as efficient than an equivalent ice vehicle at minimum. So you would have one standard for ice vehicles and another higher standard for EVs? A standard for EVs (other than the...

I know it defies your sense of believability but we should base our discussion on what has been stated and reported rather than what you believe to be true. This is gleaned from a few sources and we don’t know what the final weight of the Cybertruck will be in the end, but during the...

Someone invested in Northwood Manufacturing I guess. Every point he makes is easily countered with a little imagination. Can’t mount a camper on slanted bed sides? Sure you can - the Cybertruck has a lip for the tonneau cover track and t-slots in the bed walls for mounting at any point. Can’t...

There are a lot of people living out of their vehicles now. The width is 79.8 inches - if the width of the back seat is say 72 inches and is truly a bench seat he could lie down in the back. He will get climate control in the back seat...I don’t know if he would get that in the bed with a...

Is there a pass-through? I’ve read this referred to a couple of times but can’t find anything official on it. The tonneau rolls up bellow the rear window, so even if there is a pass-though I can’t imagine that it would be very tall or very useful.

I’m not, just found his article while searching for anything Elon may have said about the aerodynamics. From what I have read from a variety of sources, there are three main reasons why the design can’t be changed for aesthetic preference: 1) the steel and the glass were already developed...

It's both...changing the shape would ruin the aero AND weaken the body... Are the boxy Tesla Cybertruck's aerodynamics any good? An engineer found out - Electrek

I saw a figure somewhere of 50k for the projected number of trucks they will make a year.

Yes...painfully long. Where is the Cybertruck waiting room thread? :)

Is Elon’s dream of a Robotaxi network in trouble with California’s passage of AB 5? AB 5 requires ride-share operators to be considered employees rather than independent contractors. If Tesla owners put their car in the robotaxi network are they now ride-share operators the same as Lyft or...

My Tesla Model 3 delivery experience wrap-up: My biggest takeaway: if you order in the middle of the quarter you’re going to have to wait the longest. You can make some calls and maybe get it a day sooner at the end, but it’s still going to be 5 weeks. Order at the end of the quarter you’ll...

There were 15 at Fremont earlier. Now there seems to be just 3. I don't know the answer but my guess is they are now making them for the US and will probably keep showing up periodically until they switch back to making cars destined for Europe.

Well there are tons of LR AWD model 3's available at Fremont now, all colors. So everyone should be able to get their car...

Did you check source code? My VIN # showed up in source code a little before the text to schedule, and showed up on the webpage immediately after I scheduled a time.

Had vin in source code this morning!

This is kind of a confirmation of what I have surmised from reading posts and articles over the last few weeks...Californians will be the absolute last to get their deliveries because they are within hours of the factory. It’s all about getting the most deliveries to count for the quarter...

Free supercharging for two years? Free wheel and interior upgrades? I may cancel and re-order...it's been 30 days with nothing from Tesla anyway, wth... Tesla reinstates free Supercharging for new Model 3 owners in sales push, report says

I wonder if the cars you saw were RHD bound for Philadelphia (or even if LHD elsewhere in Europe). Tesla transports Model 3 RHD units to Philadelphia port for faster UK transit After reading this article it makes me think that every car they are building in Fremont right now is destined for...

I can deal with the wait so far. I know a lot of previous buyers had to wait a lot longer. I sold my ICE car but I've been riding my Zero to work, so I'm not having to continue buying gas because of the wait. But if it goes past the end of September and starts to get into the rainy season...

Yes, researching, shopping for and ultimately buying accessories is the only way to mitigate the extreme delayed gratification experience of buying a new Tesla - at least one that's not pre-built. I've ordered a few things, some of which I may not use. If I don't get a VIN soon I could end up...

I've been told by a couple of different Tesla people that as long as no one ever took ownership of the car, they can sell a demo car with 1K or 2k miles as new - hopefully at a discount. Yeah I don't know about the other colors. It just seemed interesting that all 6 of the white cars were the...