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    [UK] 2023.20.x

    It would be true to say Elon hasn't spoken to me for a very long time :)
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    [UK] 2023 Orders to Delivery for M3 and MY and personal shipping related questions

    Mats, type 2 cable, universal charging cable, usb thumb drive, 2 key cards. I don't recall getting anything else, I think even a "thank you for buying a Tesla" was an optional extra, The tray under the arm rest is an option from the store, and to be honest, I thought it always was.
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    Big Things in the Back of a Model Y!

    A friend used his MY to take 4 of us to a cruise ship. 4 adults, 4 large suitcases (one had to be positioned between the rear seats), 4 small suitcase/rucksacks (1 frunk with other stuff, 2 under the rear underfloor area, 1 on the floor between the rear passenegrs), 2 suit carriers for the...
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    [UK] 2023.20.x

    I'm guessing 2023.26 is at the moment aimed at cars without parking sensors as the bulk of the cars getting it seem to be 2022 and 2023 M3 and MY cars https://tesla-info.com/release-stats/2023.26
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    I'm starting to think OTA updates aren't such a good thing

    I'm ok with them but not if it's an excuse for lazy design, little testing and no thought out release cycle which sadly seems to be the case. The whole wiper control debarcle being a case in point - from automatically turning on with AP, to the potential to control via the steering wheel, to...
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    Crazy low residuals?

    Sadly I don't think the mainstream press have really got going yet on potential negative press. We know they will over-blow things in the name of a good headline, so we can expect to see the picture of some sad looking person talking about how the lack of parking sensor resulted in them...
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    22MYP Suspension Upgrade third party or new 23 comfort suspension?

    This - and it would stop people moaning about the suspension. I'm in the UK and I'm not aware of anyone that's had it done here, I may end up being the first! (2022 MY LR). Does anyone know if the China built cars are different in what can be done? It's a long shot asking, but my confidence...
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    Rumour: Model 3/Y to lose stalks in 2023 model year

    I've read all the teslascope tweets and I'm none the wiser personally. I think the only thing you can conclude is that there's a update coming at some point in the next year. I'm not surprised there is little concrete detail personally, and while it's 10 mins of my life I'll not get back, there...
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    Huge inventory changes?

    Tesla Troy was discussing this on Twitter as it's played havoc with some of his data sources. It seems in the US there's been a technical change on Teslas side which has meant a lot of cars have disappeared from the 3rd party sites. US MS inventory counts: ev-cpo = 182 waiting for tesla = 187...
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    Crazy low residuals?

    If there's any good news to be had it's that mine seems to have bottomed out and has gone up slightly according to WBAC (M3). It is still very low but maybe it's found a low watermark or market floor.
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    Tesla new model silhouette

    When I saw the profile my first reaction was it was a Model 3 and presumed it was the refresh. BMW, Merc and Audi have declared an "All new..." 3 series, C class, or A4 model every 6-8 years so Musk saying it's a "new model", could be just that, the new Model 3.
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    Controversial Opinion?

    I'm sorry you find my detailed explanation of the 2 potential pitfalls with a worked examples as being unsatisfactory and you prefer to just moan about it without adding any colour. I only mention the BMA because they provided exhaustive guidance on the matter which enabled me to make an...
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    [UK] Model S/X LHD Discussion

    The top gear one was reasonably complementary but they did make the point its still not really a drivers car. I'd suggest you have a read of the MS subsection or go and read on twitter because the cars aren't without issues either, although in fairness I imagine a 200mph Ferrari is also a little...
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    Controversial Opinion?

    The NHS potential issue is because when you give the car back, the salary sacrifice unwinds, your salary goes up and as its a final salary pension, your pension pot has a sudden growth to be able to pay out. The amount is a function of the number of years in the pension and salary. The BMA...
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    [uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance

    I guess they all make mistakes. I recall they did a "predicted release" which was more like an end of year assessment with the prediction score of certain features, some of which came true (like the cabin camera being remotely accessible) and stuff that hasn't yet (like twitter), I don't recall...
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    [uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance

    I find Noteateslapp tend to like to be seen a "breaking news" site but often peak to soon. They're like electrek and the rest who take titbits of info from people like the Green and then position it as here (probably). I got frustrated over the blended braking thing where they said we'd get it...
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    [UK Discussion] This is what a self driving car looks like

    City streets driving has a shorter window than other forms of driving to react, it's partly why we have lower speed limits. Have you never been using Autopilot and when approaching stationary traffic ahead, or a roundabout wondered if the car is going to stop and then take over because you fear...
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    [UK Discussion] This is what a self driving car looks like

    The Mercedes example described earlier is a good example of this. Their system can drive at higher speeds and without a lead car when operating at level 2, however a combination of Germanic reservedness and legal frameworks has resulted in the decision to limit the conditions in which it...
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    [UK Discussion] This is what a self driving car looks like

    The question of the day In a word, not a chance.
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    [UK] Model S/X LHD Discussion

    ...and then Gangzoom remembered the loan car he'd been given didn't have parking sensors.
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    UK: buying from Tesla used inventory.

    I tend to browse inventory on tesla-info as they have the tesla inventory alongside autotrader, cazoo, ebay etc. You do get a few repeats where a seller has listed the car on multiple platforms but thats obvious from the pictures. The data table version gives you more options to filter and a...
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    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    tesla-info are showing AP04 as HW4 and RA02 as Radar V2 fitted (RA01 was radar fitted, presumably the original)
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    Wiki Everything you wanted to know about Intelligent Octopus But Were Afraid To Ask

    Yes, Tesla have changed the security, from what I've read it's something to do with the code_verifier as part of the security, they previously didn't verify, they do now. It will be interesting to see how much breaks with those using 3rd party apps. I believe they're also rate limiting IP...
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    FSD Beta in the UK?

    Musk has said 90% of what they've done in the US is applicable here (when they launch the FSDb). I always thought in software anyone quoting the "90%" thing was a sign of total naivety? https://t2informatik.de/en/smartpedia/90-percent-done-syndrome/
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    Are UK Owners less fussy? Or are we getting a better built product in the first place?

    I think its a combination of - China do seem better built - Tesla have made a few design changes over time to help, although the US cars will also be better as a result. I've seen the odd review that said late US built cars here were ok - a split of new cars now with both the MY and M3, before...
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    [uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance

    It can do what it wants in the US, but you're wandered into the UK subforum and as our cars struggle to do the basics it counts for nothing.
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    Tesla Super Charger conspiracy

    Charge rate slows down as you fill up. Better to have an empty car charging at 120kw than a near full one at 50kw. But the main motivation is to avoid the bad press thats been caused over the holiday period. Thats got to have put a few people off buying a Tesla.
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    [uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance

    Parking in the 1970's (not that I'm that old, just a picture I found). On the left edge you can see a car way over the line and the car next to it still manages to park. Then look at the length of the cars, lots of room. A few original mini's which don't actually look that small in comparison
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    Tesla Super Charger conspiracy

    I've seen what you describe, my two thoughts (which are less tin foil). The trip computer seems to a bit flacky at the moment. I did a long trip over Christmas, supercharger as the first destination, preheating drank the electrons like no tomorrow. Trip then recommended an equally stupid amount...
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    P90d pricing

    A 2017 MS or MX P90D is fairly rare, I thought the P100D was out by then? Anyway, take a look at this, I've guessed it's an MX as there are more of those, but if not it's easy to switch to a MS. Volume is low even if you switch to 2016 https://tesla-info.com/tesla-depreciation/UK/MX/P90D/2017...
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    [uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance

    The cars I drove until I was about 25 were boxes and I could virtually touch every corner from the drivers sear, let alone see the corners. I get that we used to cope, but the cars were smaller and so the margins when parking where bigger. I do find it disappointing that the best excuse for...
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    Battery degradation warranty question.

    My results using the link on Georges post. It's a different model but shows how its calculated, your results will of course be different.
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    [uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance

    Far from it. The goal was always FSD, Tesla even claimed "buy a car and it has all the hardware you need for FSD". They're even looking at a new better Radar. Tesla have even admitted they could never get it working well.
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    Have you lost faith in Tesla?

    They can be ok at times, but they can be very inconsistent. I recall I used to adjust the sensitivity on previous cars which helped work around any such issues but Tesla don't allow that on auto.
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    [uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance

    It's funny that you're a strong advocate of agile elsewhere, and minimum viable products, yet here you're effectively saying they went with a rubbish radar without realising at the time. Surely you can see a mistake was made. And if your counter argument is they can do without the radar...
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    [UK] used value of their Tesla cars plummeting?

    The good news about values dropping is it's now stopped me contemplating trading the car in, which in turn has stopped me reading reviews, looking at the competition and given me back almost an hour a day of my life. Every cloud has a silver lining!
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    Nightmare! (Supercharger queues)

    Seems things have calmed down today. #panic-over
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    Nightmare! (Supercharger queues)

    I've heard some "horror, nightmare, apocalyptic" stories from around the country yesterday. 20 cars waiting for over 2 hours at the services on the M6 in Cumbria, Telford queues of 4 cars (last stop before mid Wales) etc. I guess its seasonal traffic. I wonder if this is going to be like our...
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    Model Y standard range for UK - will it happen

    Didn't know about the free supercharging, where does it say that? However there are lots of both M3 and MY, and if you want to see the discounts easily, then head over to tesla-info.. makes life easier
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    [UK] 2022.44

    Looks like we may be getting information cars back... the 2022.44.25 release notes are starting to appear https://tesla-info.com/release/2022.44.25
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    [UK] 2022.44

    If that's all that's in the release it will be very underwhelming. And why be 2022.44.2? Whatever happened to 2022.44.1? I've never known a release not start on .1?
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    [UK] used value of their Tesla cars plummeting?

    In the US they're now discounting some new cars by about $3k-$4k to add to the this. Some are speculating it's to do with rebates etc probably starting next year over there, but it fits in with what we're seeing too, including lots of inventory. Would I take delivery today if I was paying full...
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    LFP SR+ over old LR?

    I agree with a lot the sentiment here, but with one caveat - and it's in the video I posted earlier. Take the SR+/RWD - there have been 3 different battery sizes in the Uk on that model alone, 2 of them the LFP battery. A 2021 car has 5kwh less than a 2022 SR+/RWD, and a 2020 has 5kwh less again...
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    LFP SR+ over old LR?

    The newer cars are generally better, not so much the build quality improvements that came with the shift to China as you can get great US built cars and poor China built ones, its the number of developments to the design. As Henry says, there's a lot to be said for the LFP battery. and 100%...
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    [UK] used value of their Tesla cars plummeting?

    Probably because you've had most of it replaced. Remind us again of your list of warranty repairs?
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    Twitter and the Chief Twit

    It's true, I opened up my twitter account for the first time in years for the laugh at what he was saying, I can believe the active numbers have increased I also found I couldn't delete it when I wanted to. It's dead as a platform if you ask me. It's been dead for a while amongst most of the...
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    [uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance

    I too have found auto high better, although still reluctant to come back on. Probably better that way than blinding oncoming traffic. I also find it gets spooked by some road sign reflections, turns them off, realises it must be its own headlights reflecting, and turns them back on. Half a mark...
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    [uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance

    Those that believe, will believe Those that doubt, will doubt Those that look at the evidence, will know. I think George was referring to the radar and whether they should have made sure that work before installing it in over a million cars. You have to admit it's embarassing that it took so...
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    [uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance

    I think this sums it up for me, and given my rear camera vision was so obscured by dirt/rain yesterday that I had trouble knowing whether I still had a garage, let alone how far away it was, the last point could be quite pertinent
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    The Elon Musk Show

    Is your whole pension fund invested in Tesla or something? Scam, let's start with Tesla putting out videos like these from 6 years ago Then all the feature complete, by the end of the year tweets from Musk which happen every year, the promise of robotaxi just about every year.. Tesla...