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    What does current FSD monthly subscription get you?

    I got it for a long trip this month. 2 near accidents on the trip. One pulled into and intersection the only reason we didn't get hit was the other car was newer and it auto braked. My opinion it makes the car more dangerous. $200 a month you risk your life to beta test for Tesla. It takes turns...
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    Where is full self drive button?

    Yes I read an article that said unless additional hardware is added it's unlikely autonomous driving will become reality. I'm thinking this will lead to some legal problems for Tesla.
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    Where is full self drive button?

    We bought the car used 1k miles so we just took what came with car honesty at the time I thought all Tesla's came with FSD and had not done a huge amount of research. We were trading in a Honda Accord at CarMax and they gave us a ridiculous amount for it and they had this car. I would have had...
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    Where is full self drive button?

    Yes I was mad about that but I think they did improve that in an update since then. I am getting a stop warning backing up now that I wasn't before the update. Also we were very new drivers at the time the camera was wet maybe the sensors were impacted too. Of course that accident is going to...
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    Where is full self drive button?

    Bingo! Thank you yes it comes up on my spouses phone not mine.
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    Where is full self drive button?

    Well I have faith Tesla will get it because if they don't they are going to have a huge legal problem to deal with.
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    Where is full self drive button?

    Tried that just now had me pair key again which might help with having to get card out every time but still isn't in app store
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    Where is full self drive button?

    Well I saw some reviews on 10.69 that looked real impressive do you have that version yet?
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    Where is full self drive button?

    This is what I get when I hit upgrade button just accessories
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    Where is full self drive button?

    I want to upgrade to FSD before price goes up. I have searched forum and can't find anything about how you actually buy it. Called Tesla support they said go to app and it will be under accessories I have gone through every accessory in store can't find it. Manual says it's under Autopilot menu...
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    Backed into pole no warning

    Why is everyone on here so snarky. I was just pointing out for any newbie like me on here the safety of the car has been greatly over exaggerated. Tesla claims this car with be able to fully self drive without modification but the car is supposed to correct human error so it's more of a question...
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    Backed into pole no warning

    I think I explained the situation thoroughly in the thread half the time the backup camera doesn't even come on. The sensors seemed reliable up till this point the front sensors seem to be reliable measurements every time I pull in garage and that is a small railing with a concrete wall behind...
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    Snippiness 2.0

    You are a bully! Leave me alone block me unfollow me what ever you have to do I can go without all your snarky comments.
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    Snippiness 2.0

    Well we know 90+ percent of accidents are driver error Tesla has built a brand claiming it's machines will change that well this is an example they have not done that when other auto makers could have prevented this accident.
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    Snippiness 2.0

    You talk too much
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    Backed into pole no warning

    Early adopter issues. I have been an early adopter of technology for 40 years I was a systems supervisor so very familiar that technology takes time to develop. Tesla is losing law suits in Europe now for misleading customers on how advanced their technology is so I'm not that dumb the car on...
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    Backed into pole no warning

    Tesla wouldn't confirm or deny there was an alert at the time I would assume there wasn't or they would have shared that data.
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    Snippiness 2.0

    Oh thanks so much supporting member that's real helpful! I like many people bought the car because I thought it would prevent events like this from happening wish I would have kept my Honda Accord that got 40 miles per gallon and was much safer and advanced than this car
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    Backed into pole no warning

    Probably 30 feet tall 12 inches around not a small object at all. Scheduled an appointment with Tesla they cancelled it said all systems and alerts were working fine. Even gave them exact time it happened but they wouldn't confirm or deny an alert was given at that time.
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    Backed into pole no warning

    So this could have happened even in summon? The car hardware wouldn't change actually I don't even think if I paid for FSD if I could even use it in my area.
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    Backed into pole no warning

    It was right near the charging port 3 sensors within inches. It was a wood utility pole 12 inches around
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    Snippiness 2.0

    Wood pole in front of a stone building almost the exact same color it had been hit by many cars before. Another unhelpful comment. You should dial it back. Doesn't this forum have any codes of conduct because you are being rude
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    Backed into pole no warning

    Disappointed a car claiming to be near autonomous can't see a pole. Glad I didn't spend the $12,000 for full self driving because I certainly wouldn't trust it now.
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    Backed into pole no warning

    Yes I think this was the case here too.
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    Snippiness 2.0

    It appears the pole had been hit many times so obviously others have missed it too. Do you work for Tesla or are you just on here the be unhelpful.
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    Backed into pole no warning

    Well I guess we found that out the hard way. Makes me think automous driving is a long way off.
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    Snippiness 2.0

    Also thought this was a support site so I really don't need you quoting the manual to me I have read it just pointing out this is a flaw people need to be aware of sensors don't always work. I think the safety is overrated
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    Backed into pole no warning

    Would have been nice in this situation at least a warning would have been nice.
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    Backed into pole no warning

    There was no chime or warning wooden pole with a stone building same color behind. Could that be the reason there was no warning?
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    Backed into pole no warning

    Never backed into anything in my life. The windows are so dark tint your can hardly see though them especially at the time of night it was. It was a wood pole with a backdrop of a stone building so blended in completely. Why bother with sensors if the don't work? 3 sensors on that corner of the...
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    Backed into pole no warning

    Backed into a wooden electric poll yesterday no warning from the car at all just the crunching sound of hitting the pole. Only 2 months we have had the car very disappointed it will be in shop so soon. I didn't even think it was possible to back into anything with all the cameras and sensors. It...
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    Model 3 where’s the summon? [answered]

    Ok well if it works anything like the auto steer it probably isn't ready for prime time. It wants your hands on the wheel but clicks off so easy it's more of an annoyance than anything. Maybe I have my settings wrong or something but if I take my hands off wheel it stops or I turn the wheel the...
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    Model 3 where’s the summon? [answered]

    Thank you. Very new member here I have only driven about 200 miles so far. Sorry if I posted in the wrong place. So far I like the model 3 performance long range but not seeing a huge advantage over the Honda Accord we traded in other than awesome acceleration, ride and lower operation costs...
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    Model 3 where’s the summon? [answered]

    Is FSD worth it? If you live in an area they don't even allow it. It seems like summon is nothing more than a $12,000 party trick. I bought a car without it but really don't see how it would do much for me until it is actually a full self autonomous car.