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    10 year cost of ownership

    Sticker was around $53, I paid $43. 8 years of gas is $10k. So $53k in costs, and $14k resale, there's your $39k net cost for owning it. Figure 10 years will end up costing me $45k. Compared to owning the Tesla for 10 years @ ~ $83k. ($103k minus optimistic $20k resale in 2025). So the...
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    Model S Premium Center Console - Only in Black

    Found this: So which one of these companies screwed up and ruined our beloved console?
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    Model S Premium Center Console - Only in Black

    I'm not ordering the piano black right now. Playing wait and see. It's super fun. Picture a small cut on your finger and then you go to make a cocktail and squeeze a lemon into it and the juice runs over the cut and you pretty much get the gist of it.
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    Model S Premium Center Console - Only in Black

    Hmm. Go test drive an 85D :) Let me know.
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    Model S Premium Center Console - Only in Black

    I haven't noticed any issues at all with my 85D
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    Model S Premium Center Console - Only in Black

    I for one would be fine with that. But this latest development is not awesome.
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    Drop-In Center Console now in the Tesla Model S online store

    I'm happy for you - but truth be told this makes me more irritated. Obviously consoles WERE able to be built that met their quality standards. And more could be made. Sigh.
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    Drop-In Center Console now in the Tesla Model S online store

    Let's not talk about the CCI here. It's not what we want. Thank you.
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    85D First Impressions

    I think battery degradation has a lot more to do with deep cycling than fast charging. Don't let the state of charge drop more than you have to. Plus I don't fully charge the battery, so it's always in the 'sweet spot' for long life. Of course some people need the full range frequently.
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    3M Carbon Fiber wrap interior?

    Imagine if Tesla offered a dashboard with a hundred diamonds inset in it. Then someone buy the car without an upgraded dash, and cut holes and stick cubic zirconium "glass" stones in them to look just like the factory diamond dashboard. One is real and one is a cheap applique. Do what you...
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    3M Carbon Fiber wrap interior?

    I agree with you that people should do whatever they like. My point isn't that CF looks bad though, it's that it's fake. Do what you like, Absolutely. But CF stickers/films are cubic zirconium. They look good, but they're fake. This is indisputable.
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    Model S Premium Center Console - Only in Black

    You've had two carbon fiber consoles? I thought they never shipped anything but Piano Black.
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    Model S Premium Center Console - Only in Black

    We don't need to go around and around. Me saying it's a lie is not what I'm truly upset about. I'm upset that they disrespected customers who placed orders 1-2 years ago and weren't provided even a semblance of redress to resolve this situation. None of us with Obeche interiors (I say this...
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    Model S Premium Center Console - Only in Black

    Yep. Finger on nose means YEP! YOU GOT IT! :) . This exactly. EXACTLY.
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    Model S Premium Center Console - Only in Black

    There should have been a step called: • Tell CSRs to stop responding to inquiries about the console. But I understand what you're saying. However, I can't see that this decision 2 years in the making came in 24 hours. And you missed a step after Head of customer service: "What do we tell...
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    Model S Premium Center Console - Only in Black

    I know they addressed this in the email - but wouldn't a discount on the piano black at least make us feel a little better about this situation? $50-100 would have felt at least like they cared about our pre-orders. Not even keeping our place in line feels terrible.
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    Model S Premium Center Console - Only in Black

    I'm saying that as agents of Tesla, they weren't telling the truth. They were unknowingly telling Tesla's lie.
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    Model S Premium Center Console - Only in Black

    I think we all agree - customer service agents aren't lying. But, in effect, they're being instructed to lie to customers unknowingly. They told people that parking sensors/AWD/new colors weren't imminent, and they told people that their console backorder was in effect. Someone knows what...
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    Model S Premium Center Console - Only in Black

    I'm not trying to chase anyone away. Just pointing a fact out.
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    Model S Premium Center Console - Only in Black

    Not possible, they stopped taking orders for other finishes a little while ago. They knew this was coming.
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    Drop-In Center Console now in the Tesla Model S online store

    Thanks! How about a lot more pics please?
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    Model S Premium Center Console - Only in Black

    [/LIST] 5. People that ordered colors/models then forced to change order. (Brown/Green, 60D)
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    Drop-In Center Console now in the Tesla Model S online store

    LOTS of pictures, from all different angles. PLEASE AND THANK YOU.
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    Drop-In Center Console now in the Tesla Model S online store

    Did they give any sort of updated ETA?
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    Argh - touch up paint still backordered for months

    To be clear, I'm talking about the "new" dark grey. I don't know the real name for it. I want the darned touch up paint. But my real concern is how little things like this spiral out of control with volume doubling, tripling, and more in the coming year or two. I'm still waiting on my...
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    Supercharger - Lusk, WY

    I'm thinking now we'll stop in Ft Collins and pick up lunch there :) That Lusk Subway has some sketchy reviews.
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    Smart Air - worth the $2,500 upgrade from coils?

    My thoughts precisely. I love gadgets and the cool factor. But it's risky as air systems are notorious for needing expensive repairs as they age.
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    Supercharger - Lusk, WY

    Planning a drive through Lusk with two small kids.. Going to be tough in this town for some vegetarians! Looks like the Subway is our best bet.
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    random chitchat

    The good news for Noah is that when we save the Earth, he'll benefit too. It's like when Republicans are down on their luck and benefit from the socialist safety nets.
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    Argh - touch up paint still backordered for months

    It's one thing about the Center Console, but seriously, no touch up paint is available yet for the new grey? I've been on that pre-order list for months. Anyone else?
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    Smart Air - worth the $2,500 upgrade from coils?

    I've got coils and don't regret it at all. Just as with any lower vehicle, I take dips and bumps at an angle and don't rub anything. One wheel at a time up any curbs or anything and it's just fine. Remember when polling people who've spent a lot of money on something, there's the Sunk Cost...
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    Supercharger - Trinidad, CO

    Thanks for the update. That's a bummer. We really wanted to do a NM trip this year.
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    "Countdown to Connect" is slow and can I please remove it

    The live timer countdown is slowing down my browser experience vastly. Can you please turn it off or make it optional or something?
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    Drop-In Center Console now in the Tesla Model S online store

    What date did you pre-order? I'll see what my number is and we can try and figure this out.
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    The real dangers of owning a Model S. (P.S. it's not what you think)

    Really? Mine plays music without me being in the seat.
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    The real dangers of owning a Model S. (P.S. it's not what you think)

    I've got new ones hard-wired all over the house so I was comfortable knowing I hadn't actually poisoned us all :)
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    The real dangers of owning a Model S. (P.S. it's not what you think)

    Since getting the Tesla in Feb, I've hardly driven our other vehicle, a hybrid SUV. Except when I had to run to Home Depot for a piece of lumber too large for the Tesla's trunk the other day. Cut to a few hours later, and my wife saying, "I keep hearing this weird low rumble." Hmm. No idea...
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    3M Carbon Fiber wrap interior?

    Tell that to F1 engineers ;)
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    3M Carbon Fiber wrap interior?

    Real carbon fiber has a purpose. It's light and strong. Fake carbon fiber is the cubic zirconia of the automotive world.
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    3M Carbon Fiber wrap interior?

    Carbon Fiber wrap is like fake designer handbags.
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    Weird how two nav screens are always so different

    The one in the driver's screen is faster, it updates routes quickly if you deviate from the route. Sometimes the large screen will take another 15+ seconds to show the same updated route. That's odd enough, but today the driver's screen showed the destination as a left turn, and the large...
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    Drop-In Center Console now in the Tesla Model S online store

    I think those were removed a long time ago.
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    Drop-In Center Console now in the Tesla Model S online store

    Thanks, but that's been around for a long time and it's not what we're after. The OEM console provides so much more room for your stuff.
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    Salvaged Model S

    Um .. "a friend who totaled his model S and bought it back".
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    Salvaged Model S

    He knew about the horror stories and still bought the car? He likes to gamble.
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    Will economics of new Tesla PowerWall product will work for you?

    This is going to sound odd, but I'm frustrated that my electricity is too cheap to make solar feasible. I pay about $0.13 / kWh and there's no on-peak off-peak nonsense. I've gotten a few quotes and doing a 10 kW system would be $30k, about a 13 year break even point. I'd definitely add the...
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    My batteries recharging themselves?

    Doesn't range miles use logic to calculate based on your driving? It's not a direct measure of kWh left in the 'tank' I don't think.
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    Drop-In Center Console now in the Tesla Model S online store

    You're 100% correct. Which is why I love all the rude posts telling us that we should shut up and love the open aesthetic and buy a Scion if we want good cupholders and storage.