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    The Yoke Lover’s master thread! 😀😍🥰😘

    My whole thing with going stalkless is that TESLA should wait until it’s time to remove the pedals and steering wheel as well before going stalkless. Removing the stalk is lame. I fully get Elon’s whole “ultimately, all user input is error”.
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    Gas tax alternative(s) for EVs (US)

    I agree with you that per mile sucks, but it’s best since the annual registration amount will always be (should be) relative to the number of EV registrations each year, which is constantly changing.
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    Gas tax alternative(s) for EVs (US)

    Probably inevitable. Perhaps the only other way to do it would be to require separate electric meters be installed at the home for dedicated EV charging and tax revenues based on that, as well as publicly available EV charging stations such as TESLA Supercharger stations. Personally, I don’t...
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    The Yoke Lover’s master thread! 😀😍🥰😘

    Thanks for the intentional thoughts, man. For whatever reason, I’m getting some hate from trolls for my post. I’m seeking intelligent conversation on this topic. Thanks again for your insights!
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    Snippiness 2.0

    Real mature, dude. I’m ready to have an intelligent conversation when you are.
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    The Yoke Lover’s master thread! 😀😍🥰😘

    I’m curious to hear from some “yoke lovers” what you all like about it. I understand the “why” behind it, from TESLA’s perspective (a round steering wheel would otherwise impede the driver’s view of the driver’s screen behind the steering wheel). Still, I find it ugly; although, admittedly, I...
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    How Some Tesla Owners Break The Law to "Stop ICE-ing"

    Fair point, but until recently, subsidies for the oil industry benefitted everyone, and I would argue that such subsidies still do benefit everyone—even EV owners, because nearly ZERO electricity produced by utilities is “clean energy”. My whole point is that only one group of people should not...
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    How Some Tesla Owners Break The Law to "Stop ICE-ing"

    If “FREE” EV charging wasn’t offered, then it wouldn’t be abused. Why should those who choose NOT to purchase an EV be forced to subsidize those who DO choose to purchase an EV? Same goes with the .gov subsidies and tax rebates. Let EV’s stand on their own market merits and the best value...
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    Politics - Quarantine Thread

    The Democrat Party is no longer interested in helping TESLA because TESLA auto-workers are not members of the UAW and because Elon Musk has declared that he will be voting Republican. This despite the fact that TESLA auto-workers are compensated better than their UAW counterparts at GM, FORD...
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    4680 Battery Cell Performance

    Thanks for the reply! Very helpful insights.
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    2022 Model Y 4680 Structural Pack is "Amazing", Says Munro & Associates

    This is a Model 3 battery pack featured in the video you posted. In this thread, we’ve been discussing the removal of the new 4680 structural battery pack installed in many of the brand new Model Y’s. Check out the “Munro Live” video recently uploaded to YouTube by Munro & Assoc., which shows...
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    2022 Model Y 4680 Structural Pack is "Amazing", Says Munro & Associates

    That is a fair point, but perhaps TESLA’s pursuit of the ever-elusive “million mile battery pack” has finally paid off and they are not anticipating having to replace any of the 4680 cell packs.
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    When ordering a Model Y, how can I know for sure what tech will be included before I make my purchase?

    I’ve never had to. If you buy a 2022 BMW X5, then you will know exactly what it comes with because BMW publishes the exact specs of the engine, etc. Since TESLA announces their tech—unrelated to any specific model, thus highlighting their tech—it is understandable that customers will want to...
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    When ordering a Model Y, how can I know for sure what tech will be included before I make my purchase?

    You just made my point. I’m not saying that 4680 cells are NOT coming from Fremont. I am saying that 4680 cells are definitely coming from Giga-Texas and not from Fremont alone.
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    When ordering a Model Y, how can I know for sure what tech will be included before I make my purchase?

    I’m talking about tech under the hood like heat pump, 4680 vs. 2170 battery cells, what size kWh battery pack, etc.
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    When ordering a Model Y, how can I know for sure what tech will be included before I make my purchase?

    No one said anything about legalities. This is a free market. I am the customer, and that is what I want to see. They are free not to provide it, and I am free to purchase a vehicle from another auto-maker if I don’t like it. Customer feedback is one of the things that has helped many companies...
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    When ordering a Model Y, how can I know for sure what tech will be included before I make my purchase?

    I see no reason why TESLA can’t stipulate as of “today” what will be under the hood of the TESLA I am seeking to purchase. As they make changes and updates, that list of tech pedigrees can and should be updated in real time. In tech, data is the new oil, so I see no reason why they can’t provide...
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    2022 Model Y 4680 Structural Pack is "Amazing", Says Munro & Associates

    Did everyone see/hear on that video that they are offering the 800 or so 4680 batteries to 1C1S buyers @ $800/ea…??? Would love to see someone’s YouTube video on what things can be powered by one 4680 cell and—finally—would love to see them cut it open and take a peek inside!
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    4680 Battery Cell Performance

    Obviously, the 4680 battery cells being delivered in some Model Y’s are brand-spanking new, but does anyone know how they are performing? - Is the promised superior performance (battery density, range, etc.) being delivered? - Is TESLA making Model Y’s that get the same or better...
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    When ordering a Model Y, how can I know for sure what tech will be included before I make my purchase?

    Yes. If I recall correctly, early Model Y side mirrors were larger and came equipped with anti-fog and, I think, auto-dimming as well. Then, newer builds of the Model Y began to be delivered with smaller side mirrors, possibly the same Model 3 side mirrors. Personally, I think a larger vehicle...
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    When ordering a Model Y, how can I know for sure what tech will be included before I make my purchase?

    What you said about only 4680’s coming from Fremont is not accurate. Just watched a “Munroe Live” episode wherein M&A was given the purchase option of a new Model Y built with 4680’s in Giga-Texas, and they stripped the whole car, demonstrating the new two-part body casting with the structural...
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    When ordering a Model Y, how can I know for sure what tech will be included before I make my purchase?

    Guys, it’s not mutually exclusive. Personally, I would rather see TESLA ditch the legacy “model year” and go with production build numbers that mimic software. (i.e. 2022.6.44 = Built in JUN2022, 44th build revision, etc.) BOTTOM LINE: Model year or not, let customers know what is under the hood...
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    When ordering a Model Y, how can I know for sure what tech will be included before I make my purchase?

    - JULY 2021 - When ordering a Model Y, will I know for sure before completing my order if my Model Y will come with 4680 battery cells, the new/er heat pump, and what size side mirrors it will come with, etc…??? Personally, I am not the “spend $75k on credit and hope I get the car I want” type...
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    Model X with 4680 cells?

    What are 1865’s???? I thought all TESLA models were shipped with 2170’s—save for those Model 3/Y’s currently being delivered with 4680’s…???