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Yes, there's not really anything wrong with that. It's more of a recommendation for future convenience and flexibility if you need to change or move things later, so you have some slack to work with. And if you were pulling new wire, it would be a good idea to leave that extra slack, but it's...

EVSEAdapters is a great site that makes really good quality stuff. I have a few of theirs, so I will vouch for them being overall reliable. And 15 feet is still really short, so that's not an concern as far as resistance or voltage drop or any of those kinds of issues.

I'm going to concur that this is a grasping conspiracy theory without proof or evidence. You are phrasing it as a motivation of an offensive attack to try to sabotage others. That would be contrary to Tesla's mission statement. But I will put forth a counter theory that it could be a...

Yeah, normal and is usually a combination of two or more factors: Load off the battery, so it can recalculate unloaded. Also temperature almost certainly cooling down. That doesn't meant it was "overheated", as you said--just nice and cozy warm from being in use, and then cooled down from...

Oh, well no, that's not a thing that happens. Whether the car is on or off, it ALWAYS will activate and draw from the huge main battery pack to refill the small battery as often as needed. So if you're just talking about these little low voltage 12V loads, the car can be left alone for several...

Oh, that has been tested and measured some over time, and it's over 50%. I seem to recall around 60 to 70%? This search seems to show some consensus in that area...

Huh, that is some more interesting additional information. That's not "either/or", it appears to be both. They are made different, as indicated by the 7.4 kW limit on the European cars, versus 11 kW limit on North American cars. And it does seem to be using two of the three modules instead of...

What does that have to do with a wall connector? It's because of the internal chargers inside the car not being configured to accept high amounts of current on a single phase, because it can't spread out a single phase input across all three segments of the charger. There have been threads on...

Maybe, but it has to do something a little unusual that is EV specific. I think I see where the problem is here. You're probably good up to the NACS to J1772 to 14-50. That should still have the Hot1 and Hot2 passed through. I think where it's going wrong is probably in the next one, where...

You're trying to apply a principle that does exist to a situation where the parameters are so far from that, that it's not relevant. That thing about charging efficiency, is in the realm of like 1 or 2 kW power levels, where a constant draw of 300 W is a sizeable portion of it. So charging at...

Tesla never deployed "Chill" mode at all to my 2014 S85, probably for this reason. There's not that much to tone it down from.

No, neither of these is that. Tesla never has and still doesn't use the Guess-O-Meter methodology. That is what other brands use, where the main number of supposed "miles" on the fuel gauge is a shifting projection based on a continually updating efficiency factor based on how the car has been...

Same basic guts of the part, yes. It's been that way for many years, but they are really wired differently internally somehow, so they aren't just instantly switchable. The version of the charger in the North American cars also has the same 11 kW total power processing, but is only configured...

I just saw this show up on a Facebook post, and it's got an article on Teslarati. Martin Brower has also been doing some evaluation usage with two Tesla semis. They seem to be a supply distributor that works mostly with restaurant chains. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-semi-pilot-martin-brower/

We've known that at a lot of Supercharger locations, the signage says something that is not as exclusive, like "30 minute general parking" or things like that, where the business owners can't block off access to those spaces exclusively to Teslas. But in some other locations, it does say "Tesla...

It's interesting that you gave the detail of your situation, because it is almost the same as ours. We have a Model S and a Model Y. We just have the one plug on the back right side of the garage, so it very easily can reach the charge ports of both cars, where it is lying across the floor...

I don't think any of that is true. That would be a massive fundamental change of paradigm that I can't see Tesla making. What you are talking about is a "Guess-O-Meter", and many other car brands do that, but Tesla very noticeably is one of the very few companies that doesn't do that, and uses...

I guess I'm really lost why you would lose it on that. It would be very reasonable for people to go with the information they have because it's 99% of the cases, where they don't know about the rare 1% exception that exists.

@Vines Thanks. I had done some searching earlier today and found that page with the Massachusetts amendments and that 334.80 section. It does appear that it's showing that it can use the 90 degree rating unless it's in an insulated wall, where it would still have to use the 60 degree rating...

Can you give a link to a document of the Mass. code then that shows this? I would really like to learn if this is the case.

As to the "STOP IT", I've been on this forum for a decade. Why haven't I ever seen you bring this up before? I've never heard of any state overriding the national electric code on this. And if you're going to say something this outlandish, I would really like a reference.

Yes! This, exactly! Such as....everything except that. That's just about the only thing it doesn't use. The number values shift based on the car's estimation getting a little fuzzy on trying to determine the amount of energy it thinks is in the battery, but then it is scaling it by a fixed...

It's not as simplistic as simply the voltage. It is the car trying to get a really good estimate of how much actual energy is available in there. And it uses a few methods and factors to try to keep track of that. It's not the fixed efficiency constant that's getting off. That does...

This is all out of pocket repair work. It's still in their interest to get paid. It's a possibility they might refuse to work on it, but I wouldn't say likely. That is absolutely FOR CERTAIN not something they are allowed to do at all. Having aftermarket repair work done by an outside shop...

Yeah, except that only solves half of the problem. With having the car in Europe, one would want to be able to use both AC charging and fast DC charging, right? That is what a CCS2 port in the car gives you--it can receive either kind of plug.. You can plug a Mennekes (Type 2) charging plug...

And yet AGAIN we have to break out the exaggerated air quotes for this so-called "electrician" who doesn't know how to read ampacity ratings, and is violating code by using undersized wire for this circuit. That 6 gauge Romex is insufficient for a 60A circuit. Why do we keep seeing this same...

But $10K versus $15K. Is a warranty for only 4 years worth $5K to you? It might be, but it's not like it's just a freebie extra. You're paying quite a bit for it.

Jeeeez. That's an eye opening indicator of how long this has been in progress/delayed.

It can be very common if you're doing what I think you're doing. I'm guessing this is just hanging by the outlet and the electronics box is not supported by anything, right? So the weight of it pulling down is always directly pulling that connection apart. So yes, that's what happens to a lot...

They offered that in the first quarter to goose sales and move some inventory. I expect they will still have that same issue again some other times during this year, so I do think they will make that offer again, and I'm going to do it this time whenever they offer it again.

I am thinking the problem there might be if it's one of the newer cars that has the 16V system instead of 12V. A lot of car inverters aren't built to be able to use voltage that high. I can't remember if a 2022 car had the newer 16V battery or not. But anyway, there have been several threads...

The setup for this question doesn't make sense to me. What is this car? Your location says you are in Denmark, so all of the European cars already have the CCS2 charge ports in them. Why do you have a car in Europe with the NACS port? Was this imported from the United States or something...

Something that is portable enough to lift could get you about 10 miles, not 100 miles.

I saw a friend posting yesterday about the surprising number of cars at the Lima, OH Supercharger because of eclipse travel traffic. It's a thing. You can expect problems like this again in 2044 at the next one.

Wow, well this thread has gotten interesting. You're another longtimer here. How did we never hear of this before? I had temporarily forgotten there were two versions of the Gen1, and from the many threads on this around 2018 through 2021-ish, the best we knew was that none of the Gen1 could...

Well, yeah, that's what cars do. Trading cars every 5 or so years is a great way to empty your bank accounts, as you are repeatedly taking the biggest punch in the face on depreciation. You should expect a car to lose basically all of its value and therefore keep it for at least a decade to...

But here's the thing--there are two separate issues. That stuff you are quoting is from the much later release that far expanded the use of GFCI breakers to MANY more circuits. What is not the subject of interpretation is that in the 2017 NEC code, they added this in section 625 that left it...

Ah, yep. I recognize this problem instantly, and it's probably only the real old timers on this forum who will remember it because it was so long ago. It was first discovered in about 2018. Tesla started using a newer something in the cars' computers that straight up had an incompatibility...

You shouldn't post falsehoods. Significantly, not slightly. You are getting this information incorrect and backward here. Tesla was the only company reporting the actual results of the full test exactly as performed. It was the other companies using calculated values that were created and...

That offer was listed as ending on March 31, and it does not show anywhere on their site now, so I think the answer is no. They were trying to goose sales by the end of the quarter. However, they will probably have the same issue going on this quarter as well, so I expect they will reactivate...

My wife and I snarkily use the phrase "Self proclaimed!" when some product labeling uses vague pat yourself on the back words like "quality" or "best".

Challenge what? You're trying to mash together two separate topics. Yes, absolutely it does. We agree. That topic is about figuring the rating level of the circuit. And I already talked about that, by pointing out that the continuous current is 24A, so it must have wire and breaker rated...

In the car's port? I think that's the first I've ever heard of it being that way. The only cases I've seen are where it broke off of one of the port's pins, but then it's stuck jammed into the hole in the plug of the charging handle. Can you post a picture of it? It always does that if it is...

For the vast majority of brands, yes. I think the muddy part is with someone like Stellantis. https://electrek.co/2024/02/12/stellantis-adopt-nacs-no-deal-with-tesla/ All of the things you are saying are checking the boxes for physical and software compatibility. But with Stellantis, they...

Huh, OK, that one is a little odd and unfamiliar to me. It would be showing green if it were actually doing any charging, so the blinking blue is still in some form of trying to communicate with the station. I don't think I've seen much about messages of authentication. Thanks for the extra...

Oh, right. I hadn't noticed there were three. I pulled up the links for them, and they are all forms of Romex (NM-B), so the electrical specs are the same. So yes, they're all about the same. The flat form I guess might just be preferred by some, depending on where it needs to be installed...

I just did, and it shows 10 gauge. Part of that is because you do the calculation based on the constant current of a continuous load, which is the 24A, not on the full 125% required overcapacity of the circuit, which is 30A...

@timeshifter I think you are getting some misleading and unhelpful advice so far. Yes, any form of that 10 gauge wire is fully sufficient for a 30A rated circuit, so either of those selections you found will be fine. @Watts_Up That's just not useful and is kind of distracting. Voltage drop...

@makemydayle You've really given us no information at all. The vague word "issues" doesn't say anything about what it's doing. Is the light next to the charge port doing something? What color is it? Are there any messages on the screen complaining about something? What does the charging...

(My bold added.) Those two words mean two totally different things, thanks to Tesla being incredibly confusing. In the first usage of the word, you're right, that Tesla doesn't make available any way to turn on that battery heating in preparation for charging if it is not navigating and...