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I had the MCU1>MCU2 & AP2>FSD Upgrade done beginning of October. My backup camera is useless without brake lights on. See the comparison; It used to look like the brake light pic with only the reverse light.

The mobileye patent specifically mentioned camera, vision recognition through training a neutral net IIRC. (I'll gladly accept correction on this). Currently speeds for AP2+ are only map data based. It may be the data is somewhat accurate in large parts of the US, but for me in Germany the map...

Unless of course you were bitten by reality as a buyer of AP2 who was promised AP1 feature parity by end of 2016, which still hasnt happened yet (speed sign recognition is still sorely missing - and it might take a very long time until they find a way around Mobileyes computer vision patent on...

I remember hearing someone mention in an MCU1 related video it should be possible to simply replace MCU1s Tegra3 by a Tegra4 pretty much without any software changes. Begs the question how complicated that would be too put in/onto the MCU1 circuit board, as my assumption is there aren't Tegra4...

This (though it seems it hasn't been updated in 1 1/2 years); Bloomberg Tracking Elon Musk Goals

It's not quite as simple because the antenna setup in the mirror and the display solution for the IC have also changed. MCU1 uses a Tegra3 in the mcu itself, driving a Tegra2 in the IC and only has 2.4 GHz WiFi in the mirror, only internal BT. MCU2 directly drives the MCU and IC and uses 2.4...

Elon recently reconfirmed it's upgradeable, but kept screamingly shush about the how and when and what. So literally no news.

AFAIK AP1 radar IS unheated.

Depending on the reliability of AP I agree with @tomc603 . As @daniel illustrates, he thinks "he knows" where AP will fail. Even Elon has stated somewhere that currently the problem are people overestimating the abilities of AP (nb - that was last year or even the year before, around the time of...

That's an optical effect of the phones wideangle camera combined with an lcd screen. Edit: Wonder if they use a UV gun like the dentists do to cure certain implants...

Why did the fatal Uber crash happen? Because the safety driver was aware the car should be autonomous, while it was still making fatal mistakes. Few and far enough between obviously to lull the safety driver into a wrong assumption of complete safety. So wouldn't the best safety driver be one...

Thanks, I wasn't aware of those. The videos are from early June though, not from investor autonomy day. Still, a first glimpse of progress, even though AP needs overrides in many spots that the autonomy day video didnt. Judging from the video it looks like it may get ready in the US this year...

Who saw that? Is there video? Can I see it somewhere?

Whether slam is possible in real-time or not should be quite dependent on the level of detail needed to be captured. Here's a realtime slam calculation from 5 years ago; but only based on tracking contrast points, similar to what some people saw on a leaked dev mcu shot sometime in 2017(18?)...

Had someone hit my parked car yesterday and run. AP2. No chance to get him thanks to fake AP2 "Sentry Mode". When is the FSD hardware upgrade we were promised coming? Grrrrrrrr.

Not really, AFAIK the regulation is only relevant concerning lateral acceleration limits at certain speed ranges. But I may be wrong there. Explains the crippling especially in corners though.

If you're in the EU and wondering if it's worth it to update to 2019.16.2, don't do it. The 5s timer on lane changes cripples them, turn rate means many turns can't be made anymore and NoA it's essentially still alpha - useless. I've never wanted to revert an update so badly as this one. Oh and...

Considering it's been in cars for a while and they plan to deliver hundreds of thousands of cars by the end of the year, not even considering all those vehicles eligible for the APE upgrade, and considering the promise of feature completion by the end of the year, it would have to happen in the...

I know. I just mean the feature list wasn't that long and where I'm from, the GPS speed database isn't very good and hasn't changed in the 2+ years I have my AP2 now. Also in my area we have a bunch of variable speed highways where a fixed database entry doesn't work. So it is a pretty relevant...

When did they add the speed sign recognition feature? Feature parity is still missing. Yeah, Autosteer is equal/better now, but it's not feature pared yet.

Could we get back to the topic? That would be Tesla autopilot HW3. Not the whole FSD/sensors/pricing etc. discussion. There are threads for those already. Is there any news regarding this new hardware, or regarding Teslas promise of upgrades?

Good news they're starting early stages of HW3 upgrades. I'd really like to get some info on how long they estimate the fleet upgrade to take and when to expect upgrades in different markets. Would at least give the impression they still care about those "pioneers", something they didn't show...

With all due respect. Thank you for the Morgan Stanley report, I missed that. Not having been there first hand though, I remain not regarding this as concrete evidence. Either way; the year has 32½ weeks left, since AID 3½ weeks have passed without a major new feature rolled out. Time will tell...

Yeah sure. The whole discussion about whether AP2, when upgraded to HW3, will have Sentry/DashCam is completely moot. HW3 is the hardware that goes into current production cars. They have both. The only question is whether or not you mind the cameras are recording in RCCC or color. I'd rather...

Now all we need is them upgrading everyone to HW3 - which they stayed nice and quiet about since they announced HW3 was in cars already.

Though Tesla staying quiet about the promised hardware and "official beta tester" upgrade for the AP2 FSD buyers doesn't bode well. Cameras should also be rather easy to exchange though.

I only found this; "The manufacturer makes available about a dozen or more pre-production cars that are equal to the final product. These prototypes are used to test compliance with EU safety rules (installation of lights, braking performance, stability control, crash tests with dummies), noise...

Do you have any legal text to back up that type approval requirement? AFAIK any L2 functionality does not require type approval, because the cars specifications as described in the original type approval haven't changed. Basis for that approval requirement is the Vienna protocol. Also since type...

Also, what might be the reason for NoA being Model 3 only in Germany, no matter if S/X are AP2 or 2.5?

Ok, thanks for the clarification. I'm hopeful this time is different, but I wouldn't quite go as far as calling it proof. :) I'm just sceptical because it was a big event, with many explanatory words and a YouTube video. Since then 2 weeks have passed and not a single new feature has been rolled...

Were you at the actual event? What kind of actual proof are you referring to? From afar, aside from a lengthy explanation as to the how and what, the only new info regarding FSD is the video they uploaded. I'd tend to dismiss that, considering they've already posted a video in late October 2016...

That's exactly what I'm wondering, what's the critical fleet size. Two Teslas in a country with horse carts on the roads will have different results from a country with hundreds of thousands of Teslas and no horse carts. Europe doesn't even have basic NoA yet, 6 months after the US. Model 3s in...

Considering the above approach to be correct, it would be interesting to see how significant the progress differs between markets based on the fleet sizes. As in how big progress differences are between the US, China and Europe. I know there are additional factors at play (different...

Don't forget you can get 3D info both from stereo vision and SLAM. So it's not like vision will easily fail. Also if said object is covered in dark cloth, LIDAR isn't going to catch it either...

Aw guys, c'mon! Now I'll have to check and once it's seen it can't be unseen! Good thing I can only check in another 2 weeks maybe I forget it by then...

Whoa, I missed that! That explains a LOT! Have a source for me?

I've watched it all. In it's entirety. But, aside from the fact they've abandoned HD maps and local references, they have shown a preprogrammed self driving loop. Yes, they've shown advanced summon. And NoA. Functions already "out in the wild". But other than the words of people at the investor...

And here I was thinking of TeslaBjørns old Model S... ;)

That is not quite correct. There's a very interesting video from Mobileye demonstrating a camera-only (NO LIDAR) vehicle merging "assertively" into traffic. The video is from May 2018, citing implementation with major automakers in July (no idea if that happened, if it's providing the buyers...

What exactly did he get right this time around? What DID they deliver? I'm still sorely missing speed sign recognition in Europe, because the GPS data is crap (to put it nicely), only adjusting speed 100m behind the sign. While the cheaper competition (and AP1!) slow the car down before the...

Pre-FL dead center, there's a small indent. Facelift about ⅓ off the driver side.

According to Elon at this point in time. In October 2016, feature parity was to come end of December 2016. Didn't happen. In March 2017, FSD features were 3 months maybe, 6 months definitely. Didn't happen. End of 2017, coast to coast was a few months away. Didn't happen. Now it's feature...

As far as we know today, IIRC, they were planning to use Mobileyes software on AP2. When Mobileye (naturally) said no, they had to start from scratch. While what they did since Karpathy came on board is certainly impressive, it's nowhere near where it should be given the claims they've made. And...

What exactly did Tesla show on autonomy day? All I saw was a bit of advanced summon and NoA. The video Tesla later released on YouTube was a preprogrammed round trip. Better quality but actually less challenging traffic wise than a similar video I saw in October 2016. Now - having seen the...

I'm running a dedicated OoenWRT-based router in my garage. It doesn't reach into the house and the car is the only device connected to that router. Looking at the traffic stats per interface I can see the volume and direction.

Not always. Tesla can classify uploads based on a multitude of categories/options which override/deactivation instance data they want. They can "query" the fleet for specific problem situations they want to work on/optimize. As in "upload only overrides when overtaking trucks". Or "only auto...

Please, finally, accept that the "software fix" is nothing but a cheap excuse to get customers off services' back. The glue does not discolor in a binary fashion in a predetermined area. So any idea of a color mask is bound to fail, which is why nobody would be stupid enough to even get started...

They don't have to. You may hold on to the steering wheel as long as you like. Now, if it's still connected to the car, it may be a different matter.

Well I saw a pretty cool looking video in October 2016. Elon said feature parity to AP1 would be there end of that year. AP1 feature parity isn't there 30 months in (speed sign recognition is still missing), it was a horrible 1½ year downgrade with AP2, so... I'll believe it when I see it. In...

Feel free to discuss the nuances of causality and where, as an armchair observer, one would place most blame, in the respective threads. Simply because the Wikipedia list is titled the way it is, it doesn't provide any indication of causality. Personally I'd lean to the notion of driver...