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    Original 2012 S Owner considering trade in for 2023 model - questions

    2012 p85 to 2023 Plaid. Yoke is ok and great on longer drives, steering wheel is probably better though for muscle memory and u-turns. I used both for a while. Stalkless you will get used to, I find no real issue either way though it is a bit slower to go drive to reverse and visa versa...
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    2023 Model S Road Noise?

    Model x is quieter than the S for a few reasons, but the rear hatch area is a large portion of it. It moves which can create a booming sound itself, and it can bounce sound into the rest of the vehicle that gets damped on the X. Hard to say what is causing your issue though as there just isnt...
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    1TB M.2 SSD for Model S LR Refresh for Steam and Sentinel?

    Ext4. I don’t know if it works to set different sizes but give it a shot. What I can say is it only works in the glove box.
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    Any idea what this fault code is? THC_w0246_exvFloodingDetected

    guess: exv=electronic expansion valve. flooding means it is somehow running unmetered as the exv (also called EEV in regular hvac parlance) is not responding. Part of the heating/cooling system. cooling and heating may work but not optimal or may freeze up. needs service by a trained Tesla...
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    Rejected Ultra-Red Plaid - Service is attempting to make it right

    Way more history. I purchased a blue plaid in march. Drove for just a few weeks (while in the shop a few times for initial teething, alignment, paint, hatch alignment, dirty interior, issue in carbon fiber, noise). It started collecting water "somewhere" to the point it sounded like an...
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    Rejected Ultra-Red Plaid - Service is attempting to make it right

    While I love the plaid, it is only worth it with the discounts. If they don’t make it right *now* I’m going to go back to the state, file the lemon law, stop being an investor, and move on with my life.
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    Rejected Ultra-Red Plaid - Service is attempting to make it right

    They couldn’t make it right. Car had issues under the clear coat. They knew it and did not disclose. (This is not conjecture) Now they are trying to get me another, making it the 4th attempt to get me a vehicle that works and is in decent condition. Vin matched and the “new” vehicle appears to...
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    Rejected Ultra-Red Plaid - Service is attempting to make it right

    I just got back from rejecting delivery on an Ultra Red Plaid. Paint imperfections including clearcoat inclusions and massive swirling, delivered dirty (so I couldnt see the extent of the issues, but they were bad enough that the tech even agreed), debris in the camera housings, and the car was...
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    Model S Ultra Red Waiting Room

    January to February If I remember correctly. Though I think *all* ultra red is 100% hw4 as they weren't made available until after the switch.
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    Huge inventory changes?

    The one I was looking at from this weekend showed back up and my SA says the buyback paperwork and subsequent delivery are imminent. So wish me luck. This is a make or break for me with Tesla, I’ve gone too many rounds but hopefully I can change my tagline from buyback to happy customer once...
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    Huge inventory changes?

    Agreed, but they already had the discount before this weekend. Its frustrating as I keep waiting and waiting for my buyback and there was a perfect example waiting but couldn't do anything. Oh well. As I told them either it happens or I am no longer a tesla customer for the foreseeable...
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    Huge inventory changes?

    Anyone watching inventory see a large number of model s cars drop off the inventory lists? I know some could have sold, but based on the different system it looks like a hundred plaids sold since sunday. From them sitting for over a month. Im working through the details on my buyback and...
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    About to pull trigger on new inventory MSP - am I missing anything?

    whats interesting is that over half the cars that were showing up last week, are no longer available in the system. Something like this happened last quarter too. Some of them may have sold, but not half over one weekend.
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    Model S Underglow Kit?

    Underglow is illegal in many parts of the USA. I'm sure you know this, but if not it can result in impounded cars and lots of costs. Especially if you are using emergency colors, then you could even lose your car. Many areas are EXTREMELY serious about this. Otherwise I would add a fuse and...
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    2023 - Has anyone received a fully working/no issue MSP?

    Mine had no vibrations other than the initial drive vibration at low speeds Tesla associated with the tires, including at 80mph. I have my doubts, but then again I dont have my car so I dont know. Make sure your wheels are balanced and alignment is good. I had to have my alignment "fixed"...
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    Low humming/whining noise near infotainment touchscreen

    If it REALLY bothers you, find a noctua fan in then same size and see if you can replace. Obviously this is not warranty, and you have to deal with whatever differences there are in terms of the fan type (DC/AC/pwm and wiring) but there are super silent fans out there. make sure the CFM is...
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    About to pull trigger on new inventory MSP - am I missing anything?

    around 20-30 a month for me. Phantasms: If you dont like the size/feel of an LR, the plaid will not be any different. Yes it has WAY more power, but you have to be... able to use it. It is on tap at any time, but the road just doesnt really allow you to use it most of the time. So day to day...
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    Reuters: "Tesla readies revamped Model 3 with project 'Highland' -sources" [projected 3rd quarter 2023]

    Apple makes up ~75-80% of the north American market for smartphones (slides a bit higher for android in Canada than the USA ) Worldwide *smartphone* use is still largely apple in more affluent countries, and android in other countries. Business users HEAVILY skew towards apple in NA. Android...
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    2023 - Has anyone received a fully working/no issue MSP?

    Awesome! What was your build date? There are a few available and I have a feeling they had some "issues" that may relate to build dates, though that might be a fallacy. In the end I'm still thinking about it, as Tesla hasn't figured out when they can pay for my lemon plaid.
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    Water sloshing around - After heavy rain

    I pushed a few more times, they agreed I could come in shortly to sign buyback paperwork. When asked about payment, they stated a longer statement, but it would be equivalent to "in the mail". I have pushed back and stated that they wouldn't sell me a car without immediate payment, why would I...
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    2023 - Has anyone received a fully working/no issue MSP?

    I know this is a bit of a hot potato topic. My MSP is in the middle of a buyback, they have agreed to it in principle, but it is stuck because they are still working on it, months later and won't pay until its done. So i'm out six figures while they do *something* and I contemplate bringing in...
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    10+ Reasons Why I Love My 2023 Model S vs. My 2022 Model Y Performance

    It won't hurt. The motor only pushes the handles out, springs resist and gently hold the handle against the stops extending, there is mo active pulling. If the handle closed on your Child's hand they would only feel the spring (light) pressure. Same as what you feel when you pull and move the...
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    Water sloshing around - After heavy rain

    repurchase pushed out almost 30 more days as they are still waiting for the body shop and no hard deadline. ridiculous. anyone have any advice?
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    Refused delivery’s due to windshield damage

    it isnt true anymore. they resolve before shipment mostly as per my friends who worked for dealerships years ago. Shipment damage is exceedingly rare, and qc is way better today. in the 80s/90s, tesla's current qc would have been considered world class, but today... not so much.
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    Water sloshing around - After heavy rain

    Two things, car is still at the body shop. Tesla has agreed to buy back the car, it has gone over my states limits on out of service time. Body shop says they have a solution and will have it done soon. I have not been provided with details, but they won't complete the buyback until after the...
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    2023 Model S Road Noise?

    Front tires, rear tires, left tires, right tires. Is the sound more vibrational, does it seem connected to the movement of the suspension. Is it louder in the back than the front. is it a whooshing type noise, or a booming type noise. I know you are trying, but again this is like asking my...
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    2021+ Model S and Model S Plaid Refresh Issues Thread

    It isn’t a cost cut per se. It works, and is the way most cars do it, in fact it is better than most due to the fan. You will also notice that in most cars the hvac fan runs fairly aggressively. In an electric car they turn the fans down to the minimum for energy savings, which creates...
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    2023 Model S Road Noise?

    Which tires? Again, lack of detail. I know you are going to not worry about it, but when it does strike you later that it is annoying you may want to consider that people who want to help cannot due to the lack of communication. We are not in your car and cannot read your mind. If you...
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    2021+ Model S and Model S Plaid Refresh Issues Thread

    That is a fan you hear, it is designed to pull air from the cabin and blow it across a temperature sensor and runs constantly. This is the solution to the old issue of temperature stratification in the cabin, especially on longer drives. Back in the day the temp in the car would be fine at...
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    2023 Model S Road Noise?

    Louder or the same with the rear seats upon or down? I have a loaner (s75) and know the sounds my 2023 s made as well as compared to a few others. the refresh is *FAR* quieter than the previous model years, and not by a slight amount. That being said there are a number of specific issues that...
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    2023 Model S Road Noise?

    Please describe the noise. There are a few known issues, including adjusting the rear hatch, that can make MAJOR impacts on noise. Is the noise more noticeable while driving over rough pavement, is it "rhythmic", what frequency does it appear to be at? etc.
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    Water sloshing around - After heavy rain

    No updates on schedule today. That makes 10 days out of service since purchase. I was contacted by Tesla this morning, but they state they have a "body shop" evaluating who does not want to say anything at this point due to worry about quality of service/repair. While I appreciate the idea...
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    Water sloshing around - After heavy rain

    There are no drains to get to that location as per the documentation, and the sound is more specifically on the passenger side around the foot/door area. At this point Tesla has had my car for over 8 days with 9 days out of service since purchase and I have no update from them on the cause or...
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    Water sloshing around - After heavy rain

    Let's just say this, it's a plaid. There is no way the water wouldn't have been thrown off from some of my driving. The water doesn't leave and just sloshes around in whatever area it is trapped in. That could be above the battery, but I would think that the service center would have...
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    Water sloshing around - After heavy rain

    Service couldn’t solve it and now they have it at the Body Shop to figure out the water retention issue. They don’t know what the cause of the issue is. Wish me luck it’s easy/simple, but it’s not a drain line or something like that. Otherwise I may need to seek a lawyer if Tesla doesn’t want...
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    Insulated coffee cup that fits in the 2023 S cup holders??

    Nissan Thermos makes a number of VERY good hot/cold insulated beverage holders. I have an old version of this: https://www.amazon.com/Thermos-Direct-Drink-Flask-Charcoal/dp/B004DGJLXE/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=nissan+thermos&qid=1683146677&sr=8-7 which fits just fine. I can't guarantee it on the new...
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    2023 Plaid - Booming noise

    as stated ANC is disabled. #@vapor: ive read that one and the long one. I will grab some moving blankets and pack the trunk to see if that helps. Who knows... And hopefully the other person with the "tesla fix" for a Y will pop back in before my service and let us know what the solution was...
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    Water sloshing around - After heavy rain

    I dd check, no water I can see. Maybe under the tray, but I don't see anything obvious, dry in there.
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    2023 Plaid - Booming noise

    You are correct that the mic is being overdriven, but thats just because of how darn loud it is. I turned down the gain a huge amount, (about 30dB if I remember correctly, so it should be able to record up to ~100db) but the boom sounds were another 20+db up from the avg, causing the...
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    HW4 auto wipers seem drastically improved

    I find it is odd, it doesn't want to start, but once it does it seems to work fine in auto (hw4). So I just keep ending up hitting the button a bunch of times until it finally decides to take over. Then it seems to work fairly well.
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    2023 Plaid - Booming noise

    Not much. It does a bit, but it is not complete. Which makes me think the hatch is part of the issue, but something else is causing the noise in addition to the hatch. There is no break or obstruction anywhere else I can find. No movement in the hatch that I can find at all.
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    Water sloshing around - After heavy rain

    2023 MSP, rained heavily yesterday while the car was outside. Went to drive today and I could hear what sounds like gallons of water "under" the passenger side. When I brake then accelerate it will audibly slosh back and forth. Nothing comes out though. Interior is not wet. It is not in...
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    POLL: vibration felt when slightly accelerating refresh Mode S Plaid or LR

    2023 and have it the first few miles. I wonder if it is the angle of the stator to rotor? In a teardown of the motor of the plaid there is a short discussion about magic to "mask" pulsing that would be generated by straight magnets vs angular. It could just be the car doing a self learn for a...
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    2023 Plaid - Booming noise

    Hatch was adjusted and tightened. Part of the fun stuff with low frequencies is the length is so long it is VERY hard to locate. My intuition tells me its from behind me while driving, but physics makes it really hard to be sure. Floor plate is certainly a possibility. Tesla tech just said...
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    2023 Plaid - Booming noise

    Should be up in a few mintues, recording from a few weeks ago but it is the same now. Basically listen for the parts where the mic cuts out, you can hear everything else is fairly normal then you hear crashing/booming sounds. The roads are not rough and this sound is fairly constant. Very...
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    2023 Plaid - Booming noise

    db meter testing, C weighting, shows avgs in the 83db range (remember this is c weighted, so road noise will play a huge part, normal measuring in a car is A weighted which shows how quiet tesla is in the normal spoken word range), with booming in the 96->103 range. (a bit hard to say since it...
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    2023 Plaid - Booming noise

    Over both rough and smooth pavement, especially when first driven for the day, I get a lot of booming sounds while driving. Was hoping it would be an issue with the hatch not being tight, but had tesla "fix" the alignment and reset the stops. It is now very tight, to the point it creates an...
  48. S

    hw4 - venting/closing - Not avail (but got alert stating it is)

    Got it and thanks! Strange that the message said I had to enable the feature in the locking display on the car.
  49. S

    hw4 - venting/closing - Not avail (but got alert stating it is)

    I received an alert stating that venting/closing of windows remotely is now enabled for my hw4 based S. Great. Just need to go to locking on the car to enable so it will show in the app and... nothing there? Anyone else?