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I think the choice of tires is very much related to where you live and how you drive your car. Personally, I'm very performance oriented, and I'm willing to give up tire mileage, ride comfort, and some stability for improved handling. When I lived in Southern California, for over 20 years I ran...

I actually like the look of 19" wheels and tires on a model 3 better than 20". The proportions of the size of the car to the wheels and the tires just has better esthetics in my opinion.

I wonder if the 19" rims are forged like the 20" rims. If so, they should be quite light.

I'm kind of surprised how much whining and complaining there is here about the new Model 3 Performance. The new one, according to the early reports of those who have driven them, is faster, better handling, better braking, better riding, and has better seats. The acceleration also isn't supposed...

I typically buy new, and if I like the car, I'll keep it for a long time, 10+ years and over 150k miles has been the case with about half the cars I bought new.

Want a vehicle that will require tens of thousands of dollars in repairs before hitting 150k miles, buy the BMW. I'm also hoping that the new Model 3 will at least match the M3 Comp from 100 - 200KPH.

Actually, I'm hoping that the Ludicrous, assuming that is what it is called, trashes the BMW and can knock off a 2.5 to 60, but I'd still be pretty happy with matching a perfectly launched M3 Comp in 0-60 and 1/4 mile. The effortless way in which Teslas launch is one of their biggest advantages...

At this point, the 2.9 is a rumor, and we have no idea if it's supposed to be with or without rollout. If it's real and without rollout, then 2.6 to 2.7 with rollout would be expected.

It does cost a lot more, but it is common to cross shop an M3 with a Model 3 Performance. As for the 0-60, BMW's official specs are notoriously conservative and the 3.4 is without rollout subtracted, so it's very, very close to last year's Model 3 Performance. Car and Driver got 0-60 in 2.8 with...

BMW M3 Competition xDrive

Woodland Park would be good.

Yes, I think making money is one of Tesla's goals with the Supercharger network. I don't think that was initially the goal, but I think it's the case now. Pushing a universal standard makes sense, but Tesla shouldn't be helping anyone else build out their own charging network unless they get a...

I think a special edition is a good idea for a vehicle where you know there is pent up demand. That way the company can maximize its profits, while not disappointing the early adopters too much when the price is lowered for almost the same thing later. And assuming it's a "Ludicrous" edition...

Regarding the price for the updated M3P, I think Tesla will try to optimize overall profits. Assuming that the various speculations end up being true and it has improved acceleration and handling, different seats and interior trim, and different nose and rear spoiler treatments, Tesla will...

Since I have a friend who has a recent Model S LR, I really hope this is true, at least up to about 120. 😁

I hope you're right. If Tesla does that, it would put the M3P back in the same position it was in when it first came out in 2018 relative to the competition. I think the M3P is the main reason that the competition stepped up their game so much over the last 4 or 5 years.

Amazingly common among humans, called human nature.

I bet Elon has been made aware. :oops:

I stand corrected. I must admit that I often regard what Musk has to say as overly optimistic or hyperbole. I think he just screwed up on this one.

It's a lie that Tesla has lied about the performance against a Porsche. Tesla never said what the length of the drag race between the Cybertruck towing a 911 and the 911 was. Anyone who thought it was a 1/4 mile was just making an assumption. Personally, watching the video, it seemed much...

The Taycan Turbo GT is $232k with the Weissach package. It sounds like a lot of money since it's more than double the price of a Model S Plaid with the track package, but I think what it really does is show what a great deal the Tesla is. If you compare the Taycan GT to Porsche's other GT cars...

Is the cooling issue due to an insufficient radiator or is there insufficient heat transfer within the battery pack to keep the batteries from overheating? If it's the radiator, it would seem simple to put in a bigger, more effective radiator. If it's in the pack, that's something that would...

The base Taycan model, which costs $91k in the US, is single motor RWD with 402HP and does 0-60 in 5.1. Even a current model 3 performance will handily gap a base Taycan. The new M3P should do better and still cost much, much less than a base Taycan. I don't think lapping even a base Taycan at...

That picture is rather odd. The Model Y was apparently pulling in nose first instead of backing in, and then I'm guessing pedal misapplication. I think somebody would have to be very, very drunk to screw it up that bad.

I'm hoping that Tesla has a base spec Performance that they slide in under the $55k limit for the tax credit, and then have a "ludicrous" package that adds better wheels, tires, suspension, and maybe brakes, and also tweaks the computer settings to allow a little more performance from the...

The step down gears and differential is the particularly innovative part; they're pretty interesting. The problem with Lucid is that the car that outperforms the Model S Plaid costs $250k compared to a Model S Plaid for $90k. Also, Lucid lost $516,500 for every car they sold in 2023. Lucid is...

Car and Driver says it does 0-60 in 2.8 seconds and the 1/4 mile in 11 flat at 124 MPH. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a43389602/2023-bmw-m3-competition-xdrive-edition-50-jahre-by-the-numbers/ It starts at $85k and was $109k as tested by Car and Driver. $8,500 of the extra was for carbon...

Elon didn't lie if you actually listen to what he said instead of creating your own strawman to knock down. Elon said that the carbon overwrap allows the motor to spin faster that it would without a carbon overwrap. At no point does he make a comparison of Model 3 and Model S motor speeds. Also...

This is an old thread. If you read through the whole thread, you'll see that the issues are resolved, and it's pretty much all good.

It would only be fraud if they made some public announcement to that effect. Telling some employees on an internal memo is not the same.

I think it makes a difference if the person driving the car is someone who resides with the owner of the car, typically a child, and they don't have their own insurance.

If that's all they were going to do, I think it would have been released at the same time as the other Highland versions.

It will be interesting to see if Tesla decides to respond with an even faster Model S. Plaid+ perhaps? Or Super Plaid?

Not painful, just the way Porsche does business, similar to Ferrari or Lamborghini where they start with a more basic car that you can customize extensively for a price.

I agree that Porsche is amongst the best in the world for suspension tuning, and the quality of their cars is generally very good to excellent. Among the Germans, for suspension tuning, I'd put BMW in for number 2, followed by Mercedes and Audi. I would actually put Tesla in roughly the same...

AFAIK, they didn't offer the performance package, in the U.S., that was used for the prior Taycan when it set a record at the Nurburgring.

The base model starts at $101,395, does 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, and there's no range estimate for it. A base Model S Plaid starts at $89,990, does 0-60 in 2.2 seconds without rollout, and has an EPA range estimate of 359 miles. So the Model S is $11k less for substantially better performance and...

The article says, "And this time was apparently achieved on a damp track that had plenty of other cars on it." Perhaps it would have been 20s faster without those impediments. The main point I was trying to make is that it really shouldn't take much at all for the Highland variant of a M3P be...

Back in 2020, a Model 3 Performance with modified suspension, brakes, and wheels and tires, turned a 7:44 at the Nurburgring. It would take about $10k for similar mods today, so for $65k total, it would turn basically the same time as a $70k Ioniq N, plus it would weight about 1,000 pounds less...

If you go to tesla.com and search on a Los Angeles area zip code like 90210, it returns 15 Model 3 Performances. It shows 8 of them as demo vehicles and 7 as new vehicles. Fremont, CA returned 4 Model 3 Performances, and the other zip codes I tried around the country returned 0. I guess if you...

80% full is common for this parking lot, sometimes even 100%. The location is also further off the freeway than is optimal. The brewery, coffee shop, and especially the bakery there are all good, but what about bathrooms? Before 11am on Sundays and after the brewery closes, between 8pm and 10pm...

Roswell, NM please.

Well, shucks, he should have just posted a link. :)

This guy seems to answer most of my questions. Keep in mind that the same people not getting the best out of a Model 3 Performance, are the same people running the M3 xDrive Competition in the 1/4. What are the odds that they do any better with that than they do with the Tesla? In any case...

You're taking me out of context to make a false statement. An 11.7 may make you number 132 on the Dragy list, but that's still in the average range of people who review and report on Model 3s who aren't drag racers. People who use Dragy and report it are not the typical Model 3 Performance...

Why do you think it is that times in the 11.7 range are what 90%+ of Youtubers, users in forums, and just about everywhere else, report for a stock Model 3 Performance? How do you get your car to run consistent 11.3x times? What changes have you made to the car, and what do you do to prep it for...

Carwow did a drag race including a Model 3 Performance, an M3 xDrive Competition, and an Audi RS5 about a year ago. The Model 3 turned an 11.7, but the M3 did an 11.4, and was pulling hard on the Model 3 by the end of the 1/4 mile. The Audi RS5 was last in the 1/4 mile, but is also faster than...

I'm sure that they have plenty of QC employees in Fremont. The main problem with Fremont is that they have California workers there, and that includes the QC people. The QC problems will never be solved there short of the Optimus robot taking over assembly of the cars, or moving the factory...

Getting back to the Highland Performance variant, I hope that Tesla does continue with its trend of making each succeeding model more capable on the track. Since the Model 3 has to meet a price point to sell, I'm hoping that Tesla can come up with some innovative solutions in this regard.

Please note that saying that the Plaid with Track Pack has good handling is NOT the same as saying that it has better handling than the Taycan; that would be an incorrect extrapolation of what I posted. I will stand by my statement that the current Taycan can't hang with the current Model S on...