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    $12K for FSD is insane

    Over promised 😅 😅 BTW, I vehemently disagree at the end of the video where this idiot YouTuber claims Elon is a fraud. If the YouTuber is that smart, s/he wouldn't be a YouTuber. With that said, there's some truth to the content.
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    $12K for FSD is insane

    Of these features in FSD, they used to be available as Enhanced Auto Pilot in USA and might still be available as so outside the USA. The ones that people like are: Navigate on Autopilot ✅ Auto Lane Change ✅ [Many manufacturers (including ICE players) are offering this. And many of us...
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    $12K for FSD is insane

    I really don't need FSD. I would love to get the ability for auto lane change, that's the biggest draw for me but not at $10k or even $12k. I cannot wait until other manufacturers who came up with something better and offer it for much below what Tesla is doing. Elon's logic on how FSD is so...
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    You Can See CT Price in Source Code

    I don't think Tesla set out to mislead us. Let me share a different example. BMW in their preorder of the i4 and iX also shared an initial estimate. However, the actual configuration when you add the different elements change the prices of these vehicles to be much higher. If that's not what...
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    You Can See CT Price in Source Code

    The deposit is refundable like all previous Tesla models. So if they updated the specs and pricing and it no longer meets your need, you can get your refundable deposit back.
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    CA Waiting Room

    Quick question, how many of these can one apply for? Is it per household or can I apply for my wife for one vehicle; and then for myself for a different vehicle?
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    CA Waiting Room

    Yea... Over at Reddit, someone apparently placed an order 16 months ago and still haven't taken delivery.
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    CA Waiting Room

    @acatwith12 , have you received your car yet?
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    CA Waiting Room

    A bit of a surprised. I was supposed to get the car tomorrow. However, got a last minute text message saying the car is on its way for delivery today o_O:)
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    CA Waiting Room

    Finally got VIN today. And it looks like the entire process moved to the mobile app instead of continuing on the Tesla's website.
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    CA Waiting Room

    Looks like we might all be pushed to EOQ delivery rush...
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    CA Waiting Room

    I'm not getting my SA to respond back to me in any way shape or form. I'm seeing how others who ordered later than me with the EXACT same specification around the same area in SF Bay Area are getting the vehicle earlier than me :mad::mad::mad: I'm seriously going to defer the vehicle until...
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    CA Waiting Room

    Thanks, it's very odd. Congrats on getting the car today. Not sure how the Tesla system works... I ordered at the Sunnyvale store after a test drive and thus far my dates have been moving around like crazy.
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    CA Waiting Room

    Interesting. You have the exact same configuration that I got and I still have no VIN, nothing :mad: Your profile says South Bay, is that South Bay as in the SF Bay area?
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    CA Waiting Room

    Now with the potential EV tax credit coming back, likely early 2022, is anyone pushing their order to 2022? https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/ev-tax-credit-increase-12500-biden-build-back-better/
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    CA Waiting Room

    Gotcha. In any case, I think it does suck. I am still going ahead with the delivery. The only reason to delay is the potential federal rebate that looks like it might never materialize at this point. Senator Manchin is taking too much money from the coal industry...
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    CA Waiting Room

    I don't think anyone here thinks $750 will break the bank. It's about the lost of $750 that we could have used for a nice meal for two at French Laundry, for example. If you ever read through the life of many billionaires, they care about every single dime. It's the poor people who don't value...
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    CA Waiting Room

    Another thing that I couldn't get clarification on is whether the California Rebate of $1,500 will still be applied to vehicles delivered after Nov 1.
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    CA Waiting Room

    Right now, it shows Nov 1 - Nov 29. It went as far back as December...
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    CA Waiting Room

    Same here. I see people ordered the MYLR later than me but getting the VINs earlier than me 😞😞
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    Automatic Frunk

    So the Hansshow ones can be tricked to indicate the hood is closed when it is not. That's because they didn't have a proper sensor that indicates the hood is actually closed. When you drive on the freeway when the hood is not closed and latched, the hood will fly up. There's been a couple of...
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    Automatic Frunk

    Don't get Hannshow. It's promoted by some Youtubers but it's actually a faulty product. They managed to get a hold of a prototype by EV Offer (Tesla Offer) and had a number of issues. The box itself is not water proof as they claimed. There's also a safety issue with Hannshow.
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    Understanding The Decline In Tesla’s FSD Take Rate

    I'd agree. I would be happy to pay for EAP as I find it valuable to have the automated lane change and navigate from one freeway to another. If Tesla charge $4,000 for EAP now and the take rate for EAP is another 15-20%, that's a lot of money for not having to do much. It's all software...
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    Model Y makes hum noise all the time

    Are you sure it's not because of the minimum sound law by the government? https://www.nhtsa.gov/document/minimum-sound-requirements-hybrid-and-electric-vehicles-final-rule
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    CA Waiting Room

    Looks like Tesla's website is still showing a lot of inventory with what may appears like demo vehicles with thousands of miles within the SF Bay Area. There were even a couple of them that had fewer than 50 miles.
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    Model Y Buy or Lease?

    Leasing itself is a very different financial vehicle and most people do not understand it. It is a huge difference from loans. If you are not educated about lease, you could stand to lose thousands of dollars. The terminologies are quite different with things like capitalized cost, residual...
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    Who has ordered?

    From what I understand, some of the latest FSD require HW 3.0. Tesla has been upgrading people who paid upfront for FSD. And those who didn't but now want to go for the subscription, the upgrade fee is about $1,500. So I'm optimistic that we will get HW4. Also, Elon said at the AI Day that...
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    Who has ordered?

    That is correct. It is indeed just $50k. So you could just do the subscription. But since the truck itself is $50k, I am willing to spend the extra $10k for FSD :)
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    Cybertruck Volume Production to Start in 2023

    Looks like the Cybertruck will be delayed to the end of 2022. Volume production to start in 2023.
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    Reconciliation Bill and Estimated Delivery timing

    Looks like the bill is now in jeopardy... https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/02/joe-manchin-pause-social-spending-plan-509121
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    Who has ordered?

    I just placed an order for the Cybertruck last night. Dual motor with FSD. I think $60k is good value based on the features demonstrated thus far.
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    Reconciliation Bill and Estimated Delivery timing

    Same here. I waited for a bit and the Model Y increased $2,000 over that period... I'm ready to get the car :cool:
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    Reconciliation Bill and Estimated Delivery timing

    The infrastructure bill passed the Senate. The question is whether the Reconciliation Bill can get through. I believe it requires a simple majority, so 50 Dems+ 1 VP. The question potentially comes down to whether there are detractors in the Dem party since the size of the bill is quite large...
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    CA Waiting Room

    Does your Model Y come with mud flap and PPF?
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    Tesla Y 2.0

    I think the horn being a side capacitive button is a bad idea in the Yoke design. In an emergency, your reflex is to smash in the middle of the steering/yoke, no look for that tiny little horn button. I'd also prefer the turning stalk instead of a capacitive button. Those are the only two...
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    CA Waiting Room

    Yea... after I ordered, the EDD fluctuated between mid-Sep and Oct. Eventually with the EDD dates completely missing. Came back for a couple of days this week showing Oct only to disappear again. So we really need to have a lot of patience 😅😅
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    CA Waiting Room

    I'm having the same problem.... Not sure what happened.
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    Model Y 2021 Demo or wait on new vehicle?

    I would wait. $100 discount for a car with 500 miles is not worth it for me. Is there a reason why you might not want to wait?
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    Model Y Buy or Lease?

    I love leasing cars and have done so successfully with my last few vehicles. However, I won't do it with Tesla. I just placed my very first order for a Tesla and the lease terms are quite bad. Here are a few things that you must adhere to when leasing a car: 1. Absolutely no money down. So when...
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    Heads-Up-Display (HUD): More proof

    Probably not feasible for the following reasons: * Cost of making polarized windshield might be too expensive * Potential safety issues where polarized windshield might block certain visual
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    Heads-Up-Display (HUD): More proof

    I actually much prefer BMW HUD over Prius. There's color and info do not go missing like what's shown in the Prius' videos. I do like the Laser HUD idea because with my polarized glasses, the HUD display is washed out.