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The problem is both. Your missing the fact that the driver needed to act because the autopilot program failed. The pedestrian was walking - not running as had been reported - across the road and autopilot should have avoided the collision, even though it was dark, unlike human eyes, autopilot...

I agree with Carnook. It's the combination of flawed technology and flawed human nature that will make autopilot dangerous for quite some time. The technology will miss things, like the white truck that the Tesla hit and the pedestrian crossing the road that the Uber car hit. In both cases, had...

igotzzoom, you get a plus 1 from me. The Niro, Kona and Ioniq all sound promising. I'm driving a Soul ev now and love it. It's a well-made, comfortable car.

Really, are you making the argument that no public statements are actionable, even when the plaintiff can show detrimental reliance and that Tesla should have known that the plaintiff or people like the plaintiff would have relied on the statements? Are you a lawyer? Good lawyers wouldn't make...

Actually, what Elon tweeted is contradictory to what Tesla posted, but since he seems to be an authorized agent, both the Tesla blog and Elon's tweet could be binding on Tesla. In fact, if somehow a non-owner who relied on Tesla's blog and a post-day 1 purchaser who relied on Elon's tweet...

Except this is what Tesla's website said back on March 21, 2016, before the reveal, and it still says it: There are two ways to make a reservation. The first, which will allow you to get a better spot in the queue, is to visit your local Tesla store when it opens on March 31st. Find your...

I finally heard back from Mt. Kisco Tesla, good news: Hello Tony, I can confirm if you take delivery of your vehicle in the Mount Kisco Service Center and are registering to a NY address, you are eligible for the NYS EV Rebate as per Drive Clean Rebate for Electric Cars - NYSERDA . As long as...

His answer to you seems to miss the question. Yes, if you find the right store, the rebate is automatic, no paperwork required, but I'm still not certain that you have to find the right store in the first place. I sent him a reply hoping he can provide more info.

Ross9733, did you get your Tesla at the Manhattan or Brooklyn store? I ask because it may have worked out for you because you happened to get your car at an authorized dealer.

I've been researching the New York rebate of $2,000 and I'm disappointed with what I've found. First, you have to buy the car in New York to get the rebate. I'm in the Albany area and would've considered the store in Natick, MA, but that's not allowed. The closest New York store is the one in...

My comment wasn't specific to Tesla, I was replying to a general comment about whether offering replacement batteries would increase or decrease ev sales generally, not whether it would increase/decrease model 3 sales. Tesla and the Bolt are in another category because they already offer or are...

Actually, short term, offering new ev purchasers a discount on future battery replacement would accelerate sales. Leaf sales went down when it announced that the 84 mile battery would be replaced by a 124 mile battery in 2018. 2018 sales will be impacted by the fact that Nisan has already...

Finally, some good news: Tesla Model 3 production is increasing to 5,000 units per week, say suppliers Let's hope we start seeing regular, weekly batches of invites.

'Will it ever end?' I'm starting to feel the same way....

This article describes numerous provisions in the House/Senate Bills that affect energy/renewables policies. Tax Bill Impact: What Happens to Renewable Energy?

Very little legroom in the back. Granted, it's a tough angle for the camera, but still....

Can we just cut OP some slack? There is a thing called opportunity costs. Every dollar spent on X is a dollar not spent on everything that is not X. And opportunity costs aren't just limited to money, it applies to any resource, including "attention". You may be able to walk and talk at the same...

I think you misunderstand him. I think he means "front", the side of the handle facing the person and "back", the side of the handle facing the door.

McRat has jumped the shark. And either mods don't work weekends or they only stfile left wing rants and let the right wing nut jobs go batshit.

I think any car company that moves away from EV's would be engaged in a risky game of chicken. It would be betting that enough other companies also move away to dampen the growing interest in EV's. But Nissan, Hyundai/Kia, VW and of course Tesla seem to be on an EV mission. Of the domestic...

Seriously, I don't know what bkp_duke is smoking, but he needs the antidote, quick! http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/HallE/2016/HallE20160929_low.jpg

I don't see the incentive you're posting. I see a $10,000 incentive which included the $7,500 federal tax incentive plus $4,000 from Nissan financing. Can you provide a link to $10,000 dealer incentive?

Squishy. You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means.:D

You hit it exactly right. The subsidy was put in place to support new technology that would reduce CO2 emissions. Any tax subsidy is going to be flawed and include some inefficiency, but here's what some studies have to say about the federal ev tax credit, as summarized in Wikipedia: "A 2016...

Sometimes it's hard to tell if someone is really missing the point or just pretending. I mentioned both that there are persons who will individually lose under the tax proposal. Do you really dispute that or do you believe in Santa Claus - presents for everyone! Second, I mentioned that society...

You say that you're a facts and data kinda guy, but do you also factor in costs to others? How about societal costs? Or do you only look at how a particular issue affects you? This tax bill is overwhelmingly horrible for most Americans and for the nation as a whole. Here's a little data for you...

A car doesn't have to be a "sports sedan" to compete with the model 3. Like it or not, the Bolt is already competing with the model 3: Chevy’s Bolt EV outsells Tesla for the first time in October And, as has been previously mentioned, the Leaf and the Hyudnai Ioniq ev will be getting larger...

And yet people are applauding the possibility of the tax credit being cancelled because that would help Tesla, even though it would devastate the ev market overall. By the way, the image you chose for yourself suits you perfectly

Why is it that some people on this forum care more about the effect cancelling the tax credit would have on Tesla than the effect it would have on ev sales generally? I put a $1,000 deposit on a model 3 because I care about the environment, not because I have a hard-on for fancy cars. I now...

Just got this email: Thank you again for your Model 3 reservation. We’re making significant progress clearing early production bottlenecks but, as we continue to work through them, your estimated delivery timing will now be slightly later than we originally expected. Over the next 24 hours...

It's time Tesla took down this graphic:

I'll be replacing my 2012 i-Miev. That sweet little baby has given me over 50,000 electric miles. I'll be sad to give her up, but I have a feeling the 3 will make that sadness short-lived.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this is idiotic.

I reserved 3/31/16 online.

Up until today the Estimator was telling me early 2018 (East Coast, non-employee, non-Tesla owner). Now it's showing early 2019.

I don't understand this. Tesla said the car would cost $35,000 and the range would be around 210. It is now producing a car that costs $35,00 and has a range of 220. Promise/expectations met, no? Yet, somehow 220 isn't enough because Tesla is also offering an additional 90 miles for an addition...

Insideevs will be showing it. It has a picture as a placeholder right now. First Tesla Model 3 Deliveries Tonight 8:45 PT - Watch Livestream, Launch Details Here

I'm trying to be optimistic, July seems so far off. A related question is when will we ever learn where we are in the queue? Or will Tesla never give a hint, we just get some email at some random time asking us to place our order? It's tough being impatient and optimistic.

Longtime lurker here. I'm also impatiently waiting for my Model 3. I put my deposit online on 3/31. But regarding the final "reveal", won't it have to happen before July if that's when production starts? Right now if you put in an order for a Model S, the estimated delivery date is the end of...