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I’m a Model S 100D driver with many trips between Flagstaff and Cortez going to and from Telluride. I recommend a charging stop in either via Gallup or Blanding. Gallup seems safest because it has the most alternative fast charging options. In the extremely rare occasion that there’s an issue...

Add the regionally common head wind, cold temps, and precipitation on the road and you could be for a pretty long charge at the Moenkopi Inn destination charger in Tuba City. It’s great that we have that as back up. I’ve done the westbound route from Blanding to Flag once in a MS 100 D (also...

It would definitely be worth starting a Facebook page to raise awareness and help get out the vote. Maybe call it “Kayenta Supercharger Campaign” or similar. Yay 🎉 for climbing from 10th place to 9th! I don’t really expect that we’ll get enough votes in the next two weeks to climb into the top...

“At the end of every three-month period, the top five locations in each region (North America, Europe, Asia Pacific) get added as “winning sites” to the future supercharger map allowing Tesla owners to be part of the network’s growth.” Tesla Supercharger voting allows EV drivers to choose where...

PLEASE VOTE for Kayenta as one of your five desired Tesla Supercharger Locations. It’s 10th right now in most wanted North America locations. Tesla will install superchargers at first thru fifth place. Kayenta is the “missing link” for easily getting between AZ and southwestern CO and also...

What other vibrations did you have, WOT shudder, 80 mph vibration, or something else?

These software patches are ok as a stop gap measure, but this has gone on for too long. At this point Tesla needs to bite the bullet and fix the root cause. I have no doubt that Tesla engineering team knows by now what needs to be replaced to actually fix it, but the execs are probably being...

I read somewhere in this forum (a while back so I’m unable to find it at the moment) that Tesla’s software has gone full visual even on refresh MS that have the USS hardware. Does your USS equipped Plaid still actually use the USS?

Both vibrations on the same car?

I hope you’re right. I looked at all of these MS vibration issues pretty extensively six months ago when I was trying to decide what to do about my Refresh reservation that was up for delivery. I could have sworn I’d seen somewhere that Refreshes were indeed suffering from both the hard...

The hard acceleration vibration (not the topic of this thread for clarification) typically develops around 20k miles. Your MS will very likely develop this one too by 20k- 30k miles from the mileage of your last half shat replacement. It seems to be a function of half-shaft CV joint wear. You...

How many miles on your ‘21 Plaid?

Yes you are correct. For clarification, I am referring to the hard acceleration vibration that starts when accelerating hard from most normal speeds as one of two design defects on the refresh MS. I discuss both in my previous posts. The other vibration that you are referring to (and purpose of...

The acceleration shudder/vibration happens on the all-wheel drive versions of the MS but not the rear drive variants to my knowledge and starts around 20,000 miles give or take. If your first two MS’s were RWD they won’t have it. In the AWD variety if they are lower mileage, or you drive...

I have never driven a refresh so don’t know about the medium speed vibration on the refresh MS but in regards to the front end acceleration shudder it’s a pretty annoying unless you want to lower your car and scrape at driveways and large bumps (which is also annoying). My 2017 MS and all normal...

I don’t want any new vibrations or noises from my car. If I have to choose I can’t really say which I’d prefer because I haven’t experienced either in person. Because I spend much longer periods of time at moderate speeds vs very low speeds I might take the low speed Rivian knock. Just watched...

My understanding is that the refresh mid-speed vibration continues to get worse over time and that it expands the speed range at which it occurs. How much worse is this going to be at 50k mi on the clock or 100k mi? I honestly wouldn’t recommend any AWD Model S just due the unresolved...

I canceled my order on a refresh over both vibrations. I drive a 2017 LR S that I bought new. At least my S only had one vibration issue and is manageable. The pre-refresh AWD MS only has the front half shaft vibration issue aka shudder on hard acceleration. It can be remedied w lowering links...

Did you pay for the half shaft replacement or was it 100% covered by warranty?

Nice surprise when I stopped by on this last day of 2022. They’re making good progress and I count 24 charging stalls instead of the 16 reported by supercharge dot info so unless I’m misinterpreting this equipment, there are 8 extra than we were expecting! Also included some pics of adjacent...

Maybe but maybe not. Phone accelerometers are very sensitive.

All of us have ways to measure it as I stated previously. One could make a video showing a smart phone app recording of the vibration at different speeds using (literally like the video I shared using the app I shared) or even a stiff piece of paper taped and hanging out off the dash recorded on...

Engineers have been measuring and showing vibrations for many years. This can be done using very rudimentary tools (paper card stock), your phone, or more dedicated vibration measuring instruments. All of these things could be used to show it in a video. Further more you might be able to record...

Has anyone posted or seen any videos showing this vibration? I've searched to no avail and haven't had the chance to experience it first hand. Still trying to decide whether or not to cancel my MS LR order which is at early 2022 pricing, so $10k below current pricing. Tesla claims they are...

Are 2020 and 2021 Ravens experiencing similar 35-50 mph vibrations?

My understanding is that both the Plaid and refresh LR both suffer from the (approximate) 35 -45 mph light acceleration vibration. If not, then is the LR a reliable design?

Has anyone made a video showing and/or discussing this vibration? I’ve searched and have been unable to find one. I’m debating whether to take delivery of a new S or cancel. I have never experienced this vibration in person so it would be helpful to to see or hear this vibration to determine...

What evidence leads you to your conclusion “I know they could do it with software only.” Also curious how many miles on your S and at about how many miles did your car have when you first noticed it?

Your profile indicates 8/27 delivery. Can you confirm this is 8/27/2022? If so maybe Tesla has solved actually the vibration on its newer builds with some different parts. 17K on the odometer with no vibration is promising. Does anyone know how to determine maybe via a parts manual or some...

Good point: delete “test drive” and substitute “when I took delivery of the car.”

My recommended response to Tesla Service if they tell you it’s “normal” is be something like this: “If the car didn’t have a vibration when I test drove it but instead develops it after delivery then it’s NOT normal, it’s a defect. It is negatively impacting my driving and ownership...

Yeah I saw the FB drama from tribal members. It’s all upsides economically and environmentally, both of which are important to the tribe but maybe their leadership didn’t want to make the effort to explaining it or deal w potential political damage. Seems like it would be zero expense to them...

A little excited are we? 😆 I don’t think the existing SC is terrible but we are definitely due for more capacity in FLG so this will be a welcome addition. It is 5 mi closer to the Navajo Rez which helps as you’re often cutting it very close if you venture across the Rez in a Tesla. Driving...

Nice looking truck! I just watched an independent 70 mph highway test of the R1S and he got 286 miles from 100%-0% which is pretty good for a truly off-road capable EV. I want 6’ of heated space and so I can sleep inside my rig so the 4.5’ bed doesn’t work for me. I road trip, camp, and ski...

Thanks for the report, much appreciated. I’d pull the trigger today on an R1S if it was available with 400 miles range. I regularly drive via pretty remote areas that are still devoid of fast charging infrastructure. The 400 mile R1T is reportedly coming next year, but I’m reading that due to...

Have you done long road trips in your Rivian? If so have you experienced more frequent lines or other issues 3rd party networks vs Tesla? I live in the SW USA and the Electrify America network unfortunately still has quite a way to go to catch up to Tesla especially in more remote areas.

The fact that you’ve never had the vibration and are at 22k miles on your MS tells me this should be readily solvable IF Tesla wanted to make the effort. The fact that they have not solved this yet (at least publicly) seems pretty ridiculous. I dealt with the acceleration shudder on my...

Based on your comment are you not experiencing the vibration? If so what was the build date and how many miles on your Plaid? Edit: I see August 27 delivery in your profile. Maybe it had been fixed on newer Plaids.

Does anyone have any indication if a fix is coming soon for the acceleration vibration? Tesla is threatening to cancel my order because I’ve been postponing my MSLR delivery for months now due this. I’d hate to loose my place in line and my deposit, although I’d hate more to spend a big chunk...

“Build it and they will come” definitely applies here! For me the Electrify America on the west side of AZ Mills and 5 miles south at the Premium Outlets EA site using the CHAdeMO but SC is greatly preferred as it’s 3-4x faster. Hopefully the Mesa SC site will relieve some pressure here once...

I don’t know where this website’s info regarding Beaver comes from, but Supercharge.info lists the 8 stall 150 kw SC as “Permanently Closed” https://supercharge.info/changes

PROS: It’s close to multiple freeways, ASU, and the sprawling SE valley. CONS: A fairly sketchy area. Unfortunately lots of homelessness, meth heads, and gangbangers in the area. I wouldn’t recommend venturing too far from your car. Much safer to pick up food at a nearby restaurant and eat in...

Opinions reqested from those who own a vibrating refresh. So I have a refresh MSLR on order and currently own a problem free 2017 MS100D. Knowing what you know now, if you already owned a problem free 2017 MS100D would you still consider upgrading to a refresh and live with this vibration or...

The Arizona and Colorado parts of the Four Corners region are still in need of superchargers to optimize travel here. Kayenta, Cortez, Tuba City, and Pagosa Springs would be very useful for popular routes in the area.. Until they improve SC coverage here, PHX to TRide is going to be a long trip...

Where can we go to see the % status of SC permitting?

I’ll take a SC in Mountain Village (aka Telluride), but honestly I’m bit disappointed they are putting a SC here before Kayenta or Cortez, either of which would be much more useful for improving popular regional travel routes. I do the Telluride-Flagsaff trip many times a year (as do many Tesla...

A front charging port would be a great solution. I hope this happens. My only other deal breaker is the yoke steering. I have a CT reservation, but will very likely cancel if there’s not a good charging while towing solution and if there’s no steering alternative to the yoke. It’ll be...

There is a nose in stall in New River AZ (i.e: you nose in and the trailer but have to back up with the trailer attached). I know pull thorough stalls exist sporadically worldwide, but not many near me. With the 500 mile range Cybertruck coming out soon, towing is going to be much more...

The fact that Tesla is still building new SC's without trailer compatible charging is pretty ridiculous. The majority of new SC's I've seen come online here in the SW USA are NOT trailer compatible: Gallup, NM, Holbrook, AZ, Flagstaff AZ, Deer Valley, AZ. The SW USA is chock full of tourists...

Most of the new SC installations I've seen are NOT trailer compatible. For example 8 additional V3 SCs were just added at Holbrook, AZ, so now a total of 12, along I-40. Not one of these 12 stalls is trailer friendly. Really poor planning. Someone needs to send a memo to the SC department that...