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    Raising model 3 performance to model 3 AWD height?

    I grew up driving my parents Saabs, but after that I had an 1998 Acura GSR, 2004 Subaru WRX, and a 2006 Forester XT. I'm not talking about curb hopping, I'm talking about parking in normal paved parking lot and driving across speed bumps slowly. Never had any problems with clearance on the...
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    P3D+ vs P3D-

    In my P3D+ I have to say I really dislike the 10mm drop. I've scraped twice in parking lots (once on a speed bump, once just a sharp ish drop before the chock/wheel stop). Anyone know exactly what parts to swap out on a P3D+ to get the same ride height as the stock AWD?
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    Recommendation for 18 inch wheels for Performance

    Those have a tire load capacity of 1543, which seems lower than the OEM tires and wheels for the Model 3. Do you think they will be more fragile or problem prone than the OEM wheels?
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    Raising model 3 performance to model 3 AWD height?

    I get that the 3P attracts enthusiasts that are willing to put up with many compromises, like a harsh suspension (bmw m3), no back seat (cayman), loud engine noises, minimal storage space, expensive maintenance schedules, tires usable only in summer, etc. If I had a 3P only for fun weekend...
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    Recommendation for 18 inch wheels for Performance

    Not sure if NJ/Philly is like Pittsburgh PA, but I'd recommend that if you want to drive in winter that you get smaller rims. The stock 3P rims are pretty fragile, and the low profile OEM tires don't do much to protect them. A single small pothole that doesn't bother 99.9% of traffic will cost...
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    Raising model 3 performance to model 3 AWD height?

    Shouldn't the model 3 AWD and performance share the same ideal camber? If I replace the parts (sounds likely to be springs and maybe shocks) from the AWD, shouldn't my 3P have same ideal camber? I'm not talking about some weird aftermarket lift kit, just using model 3 AWD parts on my P. Much...
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    Raising model 3 performance to model 3 AWD height?

    Spring swap sounds good, when I'm hearing my car grinding on the road I'll take any advantage I can get. Everyone else in the car was wincing. I'll inquire with the parts department, I'm worried that the shocks might be different and over extended if I put in AWD springs in a model 3p.
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    Raising model 3 performance to model 3 AWD height?

    The larger rims have the same ride height, the 18" oem, 19" oem, and 20" oem wheelsets are all very similar in height and all have the same width (235).
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    Raising model 3 performance to model 3 AWD height?

    I'll visit them soonish. I'm willing to swap any related parts to get the stock Model 3 ride height. I'm likely going to have to sell the 3P wheels, I'd consider a trade but the stock 18" wheels don't fit the 3P unfortunately.
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    Raising model 3 performance to model 3 AWD height?

    The 535i is lower than the model 3? Or 3 performance? Google claims the 535i is 5.6", the model 3 is 5.5", and the model 3P is 10-15mm lower than that.
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    Raising model 3 performance to model 3 AWD height?

    I'm loving my new 3p, except it's too low. I was visiting a park and heard a sickening thump as I went over a speed bump at 2 mph or so. Seems like the extra 10-15 mm would really help clearing curbs when parking, handling speed bumps, and handling steep up/down for driveways and the like...
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    Performance Waiting Room

    Ha, oops. Ordered June 9th, picked it up the 15th, 6 days later.
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    What’s the one thing you like the least about your Model 3?

    20" wheels (the only option on the 3P) with giant warnings about even moving the car when it's under 40F. They literally claim you shouldn't touch the tires (roll, inflate or deinflate) for 24 hours after it's been below 40F! Pretty surprising for a car sold in the sierra foothills, even when...
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    Performance Waiting Room

    After reading this complete thread I expected a fairly long wait. Instead it took me 6 days. I ordered last on June 9th (a Sunday) and got it June 22nd (Sat). Looked good to me and I'm loving it. I do wish I could have gotten all seasons or 19" wheels, but I'll do that before the fall. I...
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    Performance Model 3 Snow Tires/Rims

    Ah, thanks for the clarification. I do plan to generally start most trips with the battery and interior at a comfortable temperature before I start. Also thinking of a few blankets in the car for winter travel so we can keep the interior a bit cooler. Heat loss is generally the square of the...
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    Performance Model 3 Snow Tires/Rims

    I expected heaters to reduce range. But 100 miles being a struggle is a surprise. In what conditions? Outside temp? Heavy snow? Elevation gain?
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    Performance Waiting Room

    So the chrome delete was 3rd party?
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    Performance Model 3 Snow Tires/Rims

    I'm hoping to get a 3P RSN from Rocklin, CA. I was rather shocked to find that a car sold in the Sierra foothills couldn't drive up 80 (major east west highway in the USA) for 1.25 hours without violating the spec of the tires. Right now, despite a 104F high *today*, truckee is below 40F as I...
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    Downsides of Performance vs Long Range?

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    Advice on the financing process?

    Not sure about elsewhere, but California allows no penalties on advanced payments. So if you take out a load for $100k for 30 years, and pay it back in a month you only have to pay the interest on that money for 1 month. So you save a TON of interest.
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    Downsides of Performance vs Long Range?

    So you are pretty happy? Which one did you get? I looked and it looks like they have 12 or so for the model 3. They don't seem to mention specific car compatibility on their web site. My goal is 19", generally approximately as durable as the stock 19" model 3 wheels, and of course compatible...
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    Do you have bent 20" wheels on your Model 3?

    Anyone have semi recent experience with the stock Tesla 19" wheels. Any chance they fit on the 3 performance? I've heard lots of vague and conflicting reports. Some mention that early model 3 wheels didn't fit, but new revisions do because of slight changes. Some claim the 19" wheels fit...
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    Do you have bent 20" wheels on your Model 3?

    The 3P is only available with 20", unless you are in China.
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    Do you have bent 20" wheels on your Model 3?

    I totally get that, the frustrating part is that the Model 3 performance would otherwise be a practical car usable for daily driving, but there is no sub 20" option.... except in China. So you buy the 20" wheels with the 3P, or you get the 3 AWD.
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    Downsides of Performance vs Long Range?

    The youtube video shows 3rd party 19" wheels fitting, which isn't surprising. But the Tesla 19" do not. Noticed that he's putting on black 19" wheels, and black 19" wheels are not an option on any model 3. My source is the service manager at Rocklin Tesla. He says the front fits, but the...
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    Downsides of Performance vs Long Range?

    Which exact 19" wheels fit and are lighter than the stock 20? I've been told the tesla 19" wheels from the model 3 (non-performance) don't fit.
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    Performance Y without 20" wheels?

    Problem is, at least from what I understand, you can't swap performance wheels for non-performance. Some ridge. 3rd party wheels for the model 3 are pretty direct, but require extra/unusual clearance for proper mounting on the performance. I also don't think the 18" wheels will clear the...
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    Performance Y without 20" wheels?

    I've had cars with large rims/small sidewalls before and it was a disaster. One pothole cause TWO flats. It was really easy to damage the rims, and the ride was pretty harsh on pour roads. 20" wheels on the model Y seems like a poor fit. I noticed they sell 19" wheels on the performance...
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    Model Y Desired Features and Options

    Telsa has mentioned the AP3/HW3 hardware with approximately 10x the performance as testing in 2018 and shipping on Tesla in 2019. It's using a custom chip designed by Jim Keller who did a pretty amazing job on various AMD and Apple chips. Tesla seems to be thinking that this upgrade might be...
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    Model Y Desired Features and Options

    Just for reference: 1994 Acura GSR (FWD, small sporty coup) = 4.2" Often had the dreaded snow lifting car issue on the highway 2002 Subaru WRX (AWD, sporty sedan) = 6.1" Occasionally, had the car lifting issues, even on major highways. 2004 Subaru Forester XT (AWD, sporty SUV/Crossover)...
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    Model Y Desired Features and Options

    Some... maybe. But the 3 is low enough to be harder than a higher car for most people. I'm not talking about off road or cargo, just like say the clearance of any other SUV/cross over. Like say a Subaru Crosstrek. The M3 is 5.5" and if you drive in the winter is not an unusual amount of...
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    Model Y Desired Features and Options

    I think it's pretty obvious that everyone on this forum is anxious for a Y. To that end the Y should be a conservative tweak of the model 3. AWD, a bit more road clearance (like pretty much all SUVs and crossovers), 10% larger (as EM mentioned), 10% more expensive (as EM mentioned), and a bit...