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Tesla is not currently the right car company for you. If little stuff like those panel gaps get in the way of your ability to enjoy what is probably the best driving car on the road right now, look elsewhere...

I was referring to the difference in range experienced between an AWD with 19" wheels and my P3D+ with 20" wheels, not the LR RWD. There IS a very large difference between the LR RWD and either AWD variant (P or Non-P), just NOT that big a difference (if you drive them the same way) between the...

Me neither. I think that they would look out of place on the Tesla. They look more "amped up" and less "classy." At least IMHO...

Because they probably have not figured out what the issue actually is...very frustrating!

I am not particularly in love with the looks of the Model X (and I consider it to be the least aesthetically pleasing of the three current Tesla models), but it is more because I just generally do not appreciate big cars / SUV's -- no matter what you do to them it's impossible to hide their...

Love it. As I said, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and the completely different perspective we have on this is one of the things that keeps life interesting (and wonderful)!

I came across one parked in a parking lot in advance of a Jaguar event that happens every Father's Day here in town ("Cat's in the Garden," or something like that). My wife and i pulled in to the parking lot next to it without initially realizing what it was. My wife looked over and said "that...

Spoiler #2. Installed last Thursday (7 days ago). Lifting on the right side started two days ago...

So the Kia beats a Ferrari too in terms of efficiency...which would you rather drive? If you choose the Kia (over the Model 3), we are all free to buy one. Driving a car (even an EV) is most definitely NOT all just about efficiency...just look at that thing (the Kia that is)! The overall...

So I have a friend that has an (older) Model S P90D -- at least several years old -- and guess what, HIS carbon fiber spoiler is lifting on the right side. I actually pointed it out to him last week. He had never noticed it before and its lifting a lot more than many of the photos of our Model...

I am HUGELY grateful. That said, if Tesla did not create the 3 I would never have become a customer. The S and X just ain't my cup of tea... The reality is that the only things these three cars have in common is that they are EV's and made by the same company. They are aimed at completely...

Directly from last week's service invoice (for replacing my first spoiler that was starting to lift on the right side): M3 Rear Spoiler, Carbon(1455166-00-A)

I have driven several Model S’s over the years and was never tempted by a Tesla UNTIL the Model 3. I felt that the S (and even more so the X) were just too big for my taste. I prefer a sport sedan far and away to either SUV’s or big, luxury cars. I really, prefer my P3D to every S I have been in...

It consistently amazes me how often people don’t read the manual. I have taken to answering questions like this one by saying “read the manual.”

I did not see them dry-fit either one. But the second was installed this past Thursday and they actually kept my car overnight to inspect it again 24 hours after the install. Looks perfect. I will keep you posted!

Yes, Telsa is waaaaaaay too Techy / Silicon Valley for its own good in this regard. You can get away with garbage service and support when you are so leading edge that there is no alternative product / service that does what you've invented (or, at least does it nowhere near as well). But that...

Have a P3D in this combo and it KILLS. I personally think it’s the coolest combo (which is why I chose it)!

Everyone's economic equation is different. Let me offer a counterpoint... Purchaser is a car enthusiast (e.g. me). Purchaser used to have one great performance car to drive hard (mainly on weekends) and enjoy purely for the sake of its performance and the joy / fun of driving. Said...

As a guy who has spent all of my adult life managing businesses (sometimes successfully and, frankly, sometimes making a bit of a mess that requires fixing!) I often finding my mind wandering to just how friggin' invincible Tesla would be if the Company was run even halfway as well as the cars...

Really sorry that you are dealing with that. I wish that we could provide you with some comfort at this difficult time.

Mine was perfect upon leaving the service center around a month ago. Tomorrow it goes back in to be replaced as the right side has pulled away a couple of mm's. The issue started within 3-4 days of the initial install.

Thanks for the follow-up. Your experience and mine are, in fact, very different, but I appreciate your perspective. At the end of the day I bought a car (P3D) whose advertised range is based on an efficiency of 250 Wh/mi and I have no doubt based on my experience that if I drive it reasonably...

I THINK it would be possible to lay one on top of another (carefully and with a blanket in between them) if done the right way, but since I have not actually done it yet in my Model 3 I really cannot say for sure. I did this all of the time in my Volt, but that's a hatchback and as you mention...

Zero question that for efficiency the RWD rocks AND is still plenty fast!

You have test driven them over a period of time, really, how so? I did not know that Tesla offered such a program. I am basing my statements on 4,000+ miles driving my P and roughly 500 miles driving an AWD...so I do think that my experiences are statistically relevant -- even if only using...

And it was to me too! Enjoy!

Your statement about range is incorrect. My father has the AWD and I have the P. On similar trips at this time of year I generally experience between 240 and 250 Wh/mi on my P and between 235 and 240 Wh/mi on his AWD -- nowhere near a 20% difference. There seems to be this myth out there that...

Because he happens to have real and relevant experience driving some of the best cars in the world and is making an attempt to genuinely provide his first impressions the P3D in comparison to those experiences. If you are an car enthusiast his thoughts and initial impressions are actually very...

I have owned a P3D here in the States since December...do not hesitate, the car is exceptional!

I am really glad that you wrote this. It mirrors a lot of what I feel.

I really cannot believe that you are attributing this to "inferior" paint. If you were worried about rock chips on your bumper you should have gotten the front of the car wrapped (as many of us have done). The paint on the Tesla is no more or less prone to being damaged by rocks than any other...

If AP WAS engaged, it should NOT have been in that driving situation...

Both my father and I had the same issue and it was easily fixed by a full power down, waiting 2 minutes and then pressing the brake pedal to restart. Car must be parked when doing this. If u don’t know how to power down the car, read the manual.

Thanks for sharing those photos. I completely agree with you...that's not even acceptable for a $19,000 car!

Fair!

That is just such a crappy way to deliver a new product. I am sorry you had to deal with that. Your experience is clearly the exception rather than the rule, but there should be ZERO tolerance for delivering a less than perfectly prepped car... Elon, in the long term service delivery...

You can always choose to buy an Enclave or a BMW and drive them rather than a Tesla. Stop trying to convince those of us who are extremely satisfied with the cars that Tesla is building that we are missing some quality issue or to care about your issues in the same way that you do. We voted...

This Tesla "panel gap issue" is a bit absurd to me. Yesterday I was stuck in traffic heading to Brooklyn, NY with this thread in my mind so I looked closely at panel gaps on numerous BMW's, Audi's, Chevy's, Hyundai's, Honda's, Toyota's and ALL of them had "panel gap issues." Take a look for...

You go get 'em tiger! Look for EVERY imperfection on your car...know each one intimately and in graphic detail. Loose sleep over it. Obsess about it. And your point is? Teslas are made by humans. Humans are imperfect. Teslas are imperfect (and so has every other car I have owned including...

It's a car made by imperfect humans, so let's keep things in perspective. It was in excellent shape but not perfect. There were a few dust specks in the paint and one scratched trim panel on the driver's door. The trim panel was replaced and I did ZERO about the paint. I continue to be...

Nope. All of the options are the same. Car just got less expensive!

I do not understand the question...

Buy it! And keep the FSD if u can get it for a good price! I LOVE mine and it was built in November. No issues other than some silly, small cosmetics not worth mentioning or fixing because the car flat out drives like a dream!!!

Out here on the East Coast in NYC Metro many of our speed limits on highways are still 55 mph, so 65-70 mph is a “realistic” speed benchmark. Again, please do not state things as if 250 Wh/mi is not possible at these speeds with the PS4S. It’s not only totally doable, I find it rather easy. I...

So if you were at 75-80 mph with climate control on and figure you averaged 280 Wh/mi, 250 should be no problem without climate control at 60-65 mph...

My following distance varies between 2 and 3.

I would (and did) pay a LOT more for a Tesla than a Leaf. It does everything better from a driving-experience AND EV perspective.

I know that it is not that complicated to be efficient, but it does require a learned set of skills and attention to detail while driving. I doubt that my car is anything special (by the way it is a full-blown P3D+, not the Stealth version). As I mentioned earlier, the difference between my...

I have also been driving EV's since 2011 and I really do believe that counts for something. Knowing when to lift and let Regen do its thing, how to accelerate gradually up to speed, looking way ahead on the highway to gradually slow down when traffic does for max Regen? All of those things...

The Tesla M3 is a performance car that also happens to be an efficient EV. The Leaf and Bolt are econo-boxes that happen to be EV’s. The only things they have in common is an electric drive train. I cannot think of many less sexy cars than the Leaf or the Bolt. Comparing the cars (Leaf and...