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Given how long HW3 cars were running HW2.5 neural nets before getting a unique AP firmware, it seems unlikely HW4 would have unique functionality at this very early stage. So it's probably good to take early such reports with a grain of salt, as they could just be placebo. Although since the...

The high beams themselves work much better, i.e. they don't flash oncoming cars anymore. The same improvements were shipped globally. It's just it has no adjustments for local traffic laws. There are certainly some examples of them implementing non-US traffic laws, e.g. NoAP correctly refuses...

The radar removal really stings for me with my 2019. I've just had to laugh at times when the wipers come on for no reason at all while driving at night with street lighting, and keep going at it. Some tiny specks on the windshield (probably, I can't tell) look like raindrops to the cameras is...

If they're taking sugar pills in the ad, and you include a text saying "these are actually SSRIs, but the label is there only for legal reasons", and then you use that ad to sell sugar pills, obviously you should be sued.

Taking liability is the ultimate test of how far a company trusts its own system. Still waiting for Tesla to put their stake down. We will continue waiting until (well into) HW4 it seems.

Yes, this is correct! It’s under 2022.20 here, even though I didn’t have it with that branch yet.

Can confirm 2022.24.6 seems to have switched to Tesla Vision for my HW3 radar car in Finland. Auto high beams forced on for Autosteer, and minimum follow distance is 2. A few minor phantom breaks appeared on a familiar route that didn't happen before. These seem like the legacy Tesla Vision...

FSD development (which Tesla Vision is a subset of) has been HW3-only for years now. It's hard to see how that would change at this point. As a side note, it was interesting how there were claims early to mid 2019 that HW3 wouldn't make any difference without FSD. It's actually kind of amazing...

The navigation at 13:57 was definitely correct, so something else is going on with those last second reroutes. It seems much quicker to reroute when something problematic comes along than before, like with the road blocked by construction elsewhere in the video. So this seemed more like a false...

All the deplatforming is a symptom of a destructive algorithm that amplifies bubbles of negativity, populism and controversy. Social media companies create monsters for engagement, and then have to pull the emergency brake when the consequences pile up. I did like Elon’s idea on open sourcing...

The visualization seems to be going into a top down view in some intersections, mostly when there’s a need to wait or creep. Interesting. Trying to better show the area seen by the car?

Elon mentioning that FSD 10 already predicts height from pixels without classification. Very interesting.

I smell huge self-supervised learning and automatic labeling potential!

For me 4.18.2 feels like I’ve traded all the remaining phantom brakings for FCWs. Not perfect, but much better than before!

After two winters with the Model 3 here in Finland, I have to say the radar has definitely been the weakest link in this regard. When it has snowed heavily, or with slushy weather in general, the slight heating element for the radar hasn’t been enough to keep it clean, and I’ve lost AP...

I've always felt Tesla's phantom braking was quite well explained by the extremely high Euro NCAP Safety Assist ratings. It seems obvious other companies with less sensitive systems would have less braking. If with the new vision-only system Tesla can solve the phantom breaking entirely and...

EU-2021.8-12875 here as well. Unfortunately some really wrong speed limits on this one, just like with the one they rolled back last year. At least I'm finally getting my HW3 upgrade soon, so the car will at least read the signs to fix them!

Waymo and Cruise are very much ahead right now. But Tesla has the better long-term strategy for scaling and will likely get to a globally available L4/L5 first.

Perhaps they don’t feel the camera monitoring is accurate enough for second-by-second analysis of attention, but it works fine for getting a general sense of driver attentiveness? And also given the sudden nature of mistakes the FSD Beta can make in e.g. left turns with multiple lanes, it seems...

I have not expected Tesla to take liability, i.e. go beyond L2, anytime soon. Of course right now it's clear the FSD Beta is not even L5 capable. But say it was on the cusp. There's still very little upside for hurrying to get L5 certified, but tremendous risks if something goes wrong. This is...

Also just simply the basic lane keeping, especially in tighter bends. I was always confused by the "without FSD it doesn't make any difference if you got HW3 or not" comments I saw in 2019, because just cornering speeds alone get more accurate when they can trust the neural nets and not rely on...

There used to be information at Customer and Product Support | Tesla Support on the FSD computer upgrade. In my region they were claiming Q3 for the start of Model 3 upgrades. But now Q3 is over and it seems the page is gone not just for me, but every region. Have they run into issues with the...

It seems AP has been alternating between two variations of curve behavior for the past year or so, one that brakes and one that mostly doesn’t (current one). It doesn’t feel like either version has changed much, but they just almost go back and forth every couple large firmware versions. Anyone...

I get the feeling at least with general AP that they’re concentrating on the rewrite now and the basic driving (i.e. where AP thinks it can drive, what it thinks other traffic is going to do etc.) hasn’t really changed. I mean even in this case the cameras are not the only problem, as the car...

I scheduled the upgrade in Finland for May 19th. They canceled it yesterday saying the upgrade is not yet available in the EU. That doesn’t seem to be correct based on this thread, but I suppose it’s still a little early. Will try to book again in May, since then it’s officially the scheduling...

Interesting also that Elon is not backing down on the robotaxi claims. I thought the AP rewrite meant the timelines even for pure functionality would be pushed back, but he’s still maintaining this year: Elon Musk on Twitter

That might still be true, but I assume he's talking about Early Access Program here, not Enhanced Autopilot, as in his other tweets he's talking about the new stopping feature.

They are made in Austin: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/tesla_(car_company)/fsd_chip

Anyone get the upgrade yet in Europe? Wondering if I should start sending in the occasional service requests. Probably still need to wait a bit.

The former.

Tesla is very much like Apple in this regard: they will make it very hard to stay on legacy software. Tesla has been force pushing updates remotely as well. It's really not worth the hassle to try to go against that. Of course, I'm always the one trying to get the latest update as fast as...

Audi had an L3 system already in 2018 that they couldn't release, which they have been complaining about ever since. So hopefully they actually want that stuff out instead of cynically lobbying against their own tech just because Tesla is further ahead.

Well, the EU is an incredibly important institution and all the countries in it are better off together than alone. Public opinion shifts mainly because populists in all countries love to blame the EU for things that have nothing to do with it, and take credit for things that the EU has...

Looks like we just got Smart Summon in the EU, and it's a good example of the regulations right now. You have to be standing within six meters of the car and the car can travel a maximum of 20m before you have to drive it manually. So basically it's completely useless for parking lots, more for...

We have NoA in the EU, but it's confirmation-only for lane changes. And might as well be, because at least here in Finland it suggests unnecessary changes to "follow route" all the time. Seems the maps aren't quite ready for it. But the regulations are the real reason it requires confirmations.

More wobbly on highways with 40.2.1 than on 36.2.4 for me. It’s still a minor annoyance more than anything, but a noticeable difference. Also I have a poorly marked local road that I always try with new versions. It tried to steer into center of the road, thinking it was a single lane. Never...

This is something I've been pondering as winter approaches: I'd really prefer a completely "dumb" TACC as an option. Now the cruise is basically AP without Autosteer, and it's just way too dangerous to use it when the roads are slippery. I've had no issues using cruise control in previous cars...

Automatic navigation seems to prefer home/work based on time of day, even when there is an event in the calendar with an ETA that basically matches the time of the event? They should really have the calendar override everything and then just default to home/work if there's nothing else...

Interesting that the stopping behavior with hold mode and autopilot is different. Coming to a stop in traffic with AP is now noticeably more jerky, unchanged from before. I would imagine AP will use the similar combination of brakes and regen at some point.

Almost looks like 32.12.7 leaves out Raven S/X and Model 3... which would be the exact group the one-pedal feature is for. So probably those will just go directly to 36.x whenever it's ready for wide release.

I travel to Los Angeles with some frequency actually. It's funny, I just found a picture I took of a Model 3 in Malibu early 2018, completely amazed at the sighting. Had forgotten that. It seemed like a completely alien dream car that I'd never see in Finland. Have the exact same model and color...

The "you're holding it wrong" of Tesla forums, with an added dose of self-righteousness. I've been an Apple user for a long time and vegetarian for even longer -- don't none of you think you can beat me at my own game!

Of course I have a drink with me in the car sometimes (although rarely), it’s legal and certainly not more distracting that adjusting the wipers on the Model 3. What does this have to do with this topic at all?

If they can somehow encourage the driver to verify the traffic lights on the visualization each time, I could definitely see it on early access at least soon. They’re not going to get to 100% anyway since they’re relying on maps right now, so the feedback to the driver is pretty essential. And...

Had almost no phantom breaking on the last v9 firmwares, but now with v10 several overpasses around here cause serious braking. Spilled coffee on my shirt today because of one. Fortunately didn’t brake check anyone there, really hoping this gets better soon.

Apparently some improvements on the way: Elon Musk on Twitter

I think they just can't rely on their vision system yet to do deviate from the center of the lane safely, because they don't yet detect all pedestrians, bicyclists, motorcyclists and so on. For example here in Finland, on a small road you're supposed to keep to the right of your lane, so you...

To expand on this point, I feel like I really need feedback from the car whether it's aborting the lane change due to the timeout or something else. It happens so often I've gotten into the habit of just forcing the lane change with the steering wheel every time if it gets unsure. So it would be...

For me on repeated routes there are difficult portions where there’s a lot of variance in how AP drives through them. The car acts like it sees a twist in the lane lines earlier than some other times, and then manages to navigate it better. It makes me briefly think it has improved. But then...

For me AP seems to randomly detect merging vehicles, showing them with a darker color on the right, and try to match their speed so they can merge safely. This happens way before they've started to cross the lane, or even turned on their signal sometimes. This can produce pretty violent braking...