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Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles' started by renim, Apr 17, 2016.

  1. renim

    renim Member

    Apr 6, 2013
    the duration and iteration a company has in making and selling plugin vehicles seems to have an effect on how competitive the vehicles are. 2 that come to mind are Tesla and Mitsubishi

    1 st generation - Roadster 2008 (very small production, not much more than a proof of concept, real car, real buyers)
    2 nd generation - Tesla model S
    3 rd generation - Tesla AWD + autopilot (on model S or model X)
    4 th generation - Tesla Model 3
    Yes I know Tesla and others consider the model 3 to be the 3rd generation, but the AWD, auto pilot model X is such a new vehicle compared to the Tesla RWD, pre autopilot, 40,60,85kWh that it really is a new generation, just developed in steps.

    1st generation - iMiev 2009 (significant production, multiple body and brand types, really was the first real market EV)
    2nd generation - Outlander PHEV 2013 (AWD, first PHEV to be cost competitive with its AWD diesel combustion equivalent)
    3rd generation - Outlander ASX PHEV (exp 2017) (FWD, target to be first PHEV to be cost competitive with its FWD petrol combustion equivalent)

    development Altra - 1997's - li ion 100m range LA4 cycle, hatch back
    1st generation - LEAF (24 - 30kWh)
    2nd generaton - LEAF 2 (60kWh)
    3rd generation - PHEV lite Z/juke CUV

    1st generation - GM Volt - full power 16kWh PHEV
    intermediate compliance/development car Spark EV
    1.5 generation - GEM Volt 2 (18.4kWh)
    2.5 generation - GM Bolt (60kWh)

    4 versions of Generation 1 EV vehicles
    Fluence /SM3 ZE
    Kangoo van
    Zoe - supermini
    Twizy EV quadbike with airbags

    nothing significant but its possible that they have assimilated well from Mitsubishi and have a great PHEV minivan coming, basically skipping a generation or 2!

    Not a strict comparison, but in their own market segments Tesla 3, Mitsu ASX PHEV will be remarkably competitive, LEAF 2 and GM Bolt less so, but will LEAF 2 get to the original 500 k units pa intent.

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