Do you know where these messages go and how to get a copy of the message and what Tesla recorded? Like the video you suggest is sent to Tesla
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How to gracefully disengage FSD
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diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
AFAIK, our recorded message with a video clip goes to Tesla. It is likely saved on some Tesla server and then retrieved by Tesla engineers when they search for training videos. I don't think we can get a copy of the message or video.
We don't know exactly what they're used for, but my guess is they are primarily there to benchmark performance across releases via auto-classify interventions based on the audio feedback.
For instance, you might submit feedback like "car hit curb at tight intersection". Tesla could easily track the volume of feedback with "curb" in it and compare releases to track impact of changes.
For instance, you might submit feedback like "car hit curb at tight intersection". Tesla could easily track the volume of feedback with "curb" in it and compare releases to track impact of changes.
jakimo
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I wanted to chime in with something I've kind of learned to do, with MUCH joy.. so now-a-days when I want to disengage FSD I just follow along!
I'll steer as I would steer very gently, as the FSD makes it's moves.. within a few seconds my decisions won't agree precisely with the FSD decisions and it just let's go. This idea of follow until the FSD disagrees with you comes across as a very gentle and easy transition into me driving until the next activation
I'm not sure if that makes sense, but I do find this to be SO much nicer than just 'disengaging' and catching up to normal for half a second. It's almost like a pass-off of control..
I'll steer as I would steer very gently, as the FSD makes it's moves.. within a few seconds my decisions won't agree precisely with the FSD decisions and it just let's go. This idea of follow until the FSD disagrees with you comes across as a very gentle and easy transition into me driving until the next activation
I'm not sure if that makes sense, but I do find this to be SO much nicer than just 'disengaging' and catching up to normal for half a second. It's almost like a pass-off of control..
There needs to be a way to Benignly stop FSD just like autopilot. Period. It doesn’t ask why i turn of wipers or radio..I’m sure diplomat will defend but I’m done with fanboys. I want control of my car without justifying my choice with Elon.
PianoAl
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On a related note, I recommend ALWAYS disengaging with a tap on the brake. Pushing the stalk up puts you in reverse if the car is not in the state you think it is. Because motions become unconscious, that can happen. It happened to me once.
Happened to me too, lol - but Tesla changed this behavior a while ago. After AP/FSD has been engaged you can't go into reverse without stepping on the brake pedal at the same time.
Plus you can never go into reverse while moving forwards (above some low speed, 4 mph or so)
Seems pretty safe to disengage with the stalk nowdays
MLXXXp
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You only have to push the stalk up to the first position to disengage FSD. You have to push up to the second position to select reverse. Pushing up to only the first position can put the car in neutral but you have to hold it there for a few seconds.
Therefore, if you disengage FSD by only momentarily pushing the stalk up to only the first position there's no chance of accidentally selecting a different gear regardless of the state it's currently in.
PianoAl
Active Member
Good info, and very correct, but it happened to me.
I was not moving and about to drive away. I was very distracted, and my distracted brain decided to turn off FSD. Not sure why. But it wasn't until I started moving backwards toward another car that I realized I was in reverse. No accident but close.
Humans are error prone, and nuances like moving the stalk up only a first position momentarily can be lost when the brain is on autopilot.
For me I have a solution that will prevent that from ever happening again. I only disengage with a tap to the brake (which is superior anyway because I don't have to take my hands off the wheel), and it is now second nature.
MLXXXp
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True, with only a short tap, the brakes won't be applied. However, regenerative braking will immediately kick in because your foot is over the brake pedal, not on the accelerator pedal (unless you brake with your left foot, with your right foot still on the accelerator, which wouldn't be normal for most people). This relatively quick deceleration during the time that you're moving your foot back to the accelerator pedal could be dangerous in some circumstances.
I use the brake pedal to disengage FSD only when I actually want to quickly slow or stop the car, when I don't trust FSD will. Otherwise, I press the right stalk up to the first position to disengage.
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