The head of Mercedes Benz now wears jeans to appear cool
To the EV crowd.
One day he will be compelled to smoke weed to sell
His cars.
Any thoughts ?
To the EV crowd.
One day he will be compelled to smoke weed to sell
His cars.
Any thoughts ?
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I dont think so. I think Tesla, as a brand, lives a very long successful career. I just think it wont be under the current capital structure.
EV's are the future, everyone knows it. Tesla brand (as of now, although this could get hurt) is still the primo name in the EV game, it might always be. I think that has value and think it lives on.
The problem is the way it has the most value is being owned by an organization that is heavily capitalized ALREADY and has all the resources necessary to make great EV's. Tesla has great bits and pieces, but it just doesnt have the total package of what a car manufacturer needs to be.
If Tesla does restructure (likely leading to a significant drop in SP, possibly to zero), I would very likely be a buyer in the new entity if it was structured properly. It is a great name and a great brand (with great products when QC is working), but the company itself is missing some very important pieces to be successful as it stands today.
Good point. Tesla must have some serious problems. I am afraid
You have to hand it to the Tesla legal department. They must have one hell of an air-tight NDA. Because no one from the C-suite talks on the record. From Jason Wheeler and Jon McNeill on down.
SpudLime
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OR...There is quite literally nothing negative for them to say. Mmmkay Pumpkin?
I did not say that. I said David Morton just may not have liked what he saw for his own reasons. And you only need to post a response once. We heard you the first time
EDIT: Now you are even starting to annoy me and that takes a LOT since I take verbal lashings all the time.
Sure! I would never dare to suggest, that a prediction that's off by a factor of only 2 or so on the timeframe is incorrect. The Ford graph is correct too btw. One could easily argue, it can't be incorrect, since it's basically not saying anything and thus does not contain a single untruth ... ;-)
I find it difficult to believe, that in 21 days you think that you can’t handle it. I mean, how this looks when he is applying for next job.
or the books are a disaster and he has to do illegal stuff
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Musk YouTube Breakdown Sends Tesla Shares Over a Cliff
Brandishing an outsize glass of whiskey in one hand and a cigar-sized marijuana "blunt" in the other, Tesla CEO Elon Musk embarked on a samurai sword wielding meltdown during a live YouTube interview last night. His mind clouded by drugs, booze, insomnia, megalomania and alien brainwaves, the erratic entrepreneur alternated between crazed laughter and morose ruminations about crazy subjects like human survival and AI during a bizarre two-and-half hour conversation with comedian and fellow stoner, Seth Rogen, at one point appearing on the brink of lopping off the stunned host's head with a samurai sword, at another of attacking him with a flamethrower....
Musk YouTube Breakdown Sends Tesla Shares Over a Cliff
Brandishing an outsize glass of whiskey in one hand and a cigar-sized marijuana "blunt" in the other, Tesla CEO Elon Musk embarked on a samurai sword wielding meltdown during a live YouTube interview last night. His mind clouded by drugs, booze, insomnia, megalomania and alien brainwaves, the erratic entrepreneur alternated between crazed laughter and morose ruminations about crazy subjects like human survival and AI during a bizarre two-and-half hour conversation with comedian and fellow stoner, Seth Rogen, at one point appearing on the brink of lopping off the stunned host's head with a samurai sword, at another of attacking him with a flamethrower....
I don’t know what the real reason is, but the official explanation is not credible.
True. I currently do not know what to do with my shares. I guess I try to stick with them and sell them around 300-340 with luck for a small loss.
But if the scandal comes out before I might get a total loss
eye.surgeon
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Yes because of short term stock volatility. That is a harmful thing. It harms the company and shareholders. I don't care about the random walk in the park type of stock volatility, it's just noise. Volatility due to the seemingly irrational and unstable behavior of the CEO and the non-stop revolving door of top management concerns me.
Astroturfing troll is still around and still pretending to be an investor.
Moderators still do nothing.
True. I currently do not know what to do with my shares. I guess I try to stick with them and sell them around 300-340 with luck for a small loss.
But if the scandal comes out before I might get a total loss
THE scandal? Please explain.
On a more personal level I believe it would be good for you to take a break because you are talking yourself into an ever darker abyss. Breathe.
Stop feeding the troll. "Mike" is only here to astroturf. He's not an investor like he pretends to be. Look at his comment history.
The moderation in this thread is a joke. You guys have fun with the eternally unbanned trolls I guess, I'm out.
Someone please logic check me on this.
There was an earlier post that showed the percentage of institutional investor holding TSLA is dropping substantially. The institutional ownership went from 61.5% in Dec 31, 2017 to 45.5% on June 30, 2018.
Then, when there is huge good news, such as Tesla showing profitability in Q3, wouldn't a lowered percentage of institutional investors mean a more depressed gain in stock price? I'm making the assumption that II's are long term holders. Then, with less II's, then there's a lot more retail ownership, which would be open to trading. Therefore, the number of shares available to gobble up is a lot more when there is less long term ownership from institutional investors?
Note: I'm secretly hoping a scenario where the institutional investors are all long term, which don't really have much influence on the stock price. But, a high number of long term holders mean less supply of shares to buy/trade, which should mean during a time of really good news, the stock price would roar upwards from limited supply of shares to buy. Long term investors would be like: "We knew it was going to have a meteoric rise. You want in? Fight and bid up over the limited number of shares!"
There was an earlier post that showed the percentage of institutional investor holding TSLA is dropping substantially. The institutional ownership went from 61.5% in Dec 31, 2017 to 45.5% on June 30, 2018.
Then, when there is huge good news, such as Tesla showing profitability in Q3, wouldn't a lowered percentage of institutional investors mean a more depressed gain in stock price? I'm making the assumption that II's are long term holders. Then, with less II's, then there's a lot more retail ownership, which would be open to trading. Therefore, the number of shares available to gobble up is a lot more when there is less long term ownership from institutional investors?
Note: I'm secretly hoping a scenario where the institutional investors are all long term, which don't really have much influence on the stock price. But, a high number of long term holders mean less supply of shares to buy/trade, which should mean during a time of really good news, the stock price would roar upwards from limited supply of shares to buy. Long term investors would be like: "We knew it was going to have a meteoric rise. You want in? Fight and bid up over the limited number of shares!"
Looking at this, Mark Matousek is an amateur. I am afraid, he could read out this.
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humbaba
sleeping until $7000
So... you really don't have anything to say, other than you think/hope that $TSLA goes bankwupt? I mean, you think anyone is supposed to take you seriously when you say that they need to be bought by a company that "has all the resources necessary to make great EV's." Who, pray tell, is that? I promise and pinky swear not to laugh at your answer.
Or the part where you say "Tesla has great bits and pieces...". Um, yeah, like manufacturing capacity to produce the M3 in volume. Or the part about the supercharger network. Or maybe you are referring to their autopilot software? Or their high performance neural network chip? Maybe you meant such trivia as their ordering website? Having distribution points to get sold vehicles to the purchaser? Or maybe you meant the part where they do OTA updates, famously fixing a braking issue raised by consumer reports?
You are right, they definitely have great bits and pieces. But somehow you get from there to "it just doesnt have the total package of what a car manufacturer needs to be." I'm not sure I follow. The fact that they don't make a legacy engine or car? But to make sure we don't miss your point (whatever it is) you follow up with "the company itself is missing some very important pieces to be successful as it stands today." [edit: I mean't to put in a clarifying question here: can you be specific as to what it is you feel they are lacking?]
Right, so having positive cash flow (yeah, I know, we have to wait for the earnings call to have this nailed down, but it was obvious from Q2 that this is inevitable this year) is not successful? Having the best selling luxury sedan is not successful? You know, there are other car companies that would very much like to have that sort of "not successful."
But then again, you signature line gives you away. You are a bear and have shorted $TSLA, so naturally you are *hoping* that the only way they could be successful would be to go bankwupt. I'll grant you that you are not a paid troll like has been recently inhabiting the forums -- I only started posting recently, but I've been lurking and I know your post history.
Maybe you really don't get why you keep getting banned and I do believe that you "come in peace" -- you are not trying to stir it up, and I appreciate that. All I ask is that you honestly try to separate from your short position in $TSLA and look at this objectively. You can be horrified by Musk's behavior (as some bulls are) and think that they are not following a good business plan, but don't try and pretend that Tesla does not have what it takes to be a car company -- because the present facts state very plainly that they do.
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