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It's 2 years old - I'd say on the books it's worth 35% less than MSRP. Aren't they giving it a 50% residual after 36 months on the lease?

So - has anyone seen or gotten any official word that this is even happening??

Alright - I've got magazine subscriptions and wrapping paper for sale, all proceeds go towards the Tesla Financial Assistance eco5280 Fund for Driving Excellence, or NAMBLA. For the price of a cup of coffee you can help one family realize their dream of driving a premium luxury vehicle.

That's BS! I'd march right now down to your local Oldsmobile dealer and demand satisfaction!

Here's what I think about all the upgrades and the mania surrounding it from existing customers: I read, I don't know where, that most/all improvements made by Tesla would be retrofitable to existing vehicles. Free wasn't promised, but upgradability was more or less explicitly offered. This...

I think that would create a much less usable space. You'd have to load from the side of the car. Rear-hinged hoods are pretty well established for the last 80 years or so. They made the right choice :)

Thank you all for sharing this update - I've just asked my DS to add the weather package to my 85D order! It was the one feature I've been hoping for.

It's All Your Fault: The DOT Renders Its Verdict on Toyota's Unintended-Acceleration Scare The final word on the Toyota unintended-acceleration mess. "The DOT concluded that, other than a number of incidents caused by accelerators hanging up on incorrectly fitted floor mats, the accidents were...

Uh huh. It was ruled user error. Toyota was fined because they delayed telling the authorities, not because the cars were at fault.

No offense taken. Whatsoever. I enjoy a good dissection from time to time. :biggrin: - - - Updated - - - Thanks for posting that. Proves the common sense theory that the combination of "the frunk is open" and "my car just happens to have this unknown defect that the car doesn't report an...

I am not silencing anyone, at all. I encourage everyone to post your experiences, good or bad. I'm not a Tesla fanboy, I'm a forum fanboy. Long live forums. Tesla did not invent this sensor. Save my 1963 AMC Rambler American every vehicle I've ever been in has had a sensor for every door...

Possible? Sure. Anything's possible. The car could turn into a sewing machine if I enter the correct sequence on the key fob. Why not. But probable? I've had cars with key fobs for 20 years. Not one has ever let me do something it wasn't designed to do - like popping the trunk if the...

Here's the only way I think the frunk could cause damage: 1) You open the frunk. 2) You gently set it down and forget to push it down into the latches. 3) You begin driving. 4) The car alerts you that the frunk is open. 5) You ignore said warnings. 6) You accelerate enough that the airflow...

One's for a business, the other is for a person. I'm so sorry. I just couldn't resist. The real answer is talk to your accountant. You may have tax benefits for putting the company under your corporate umbrella.

Analog cell phone towers survived probably 10 years once digital signals came out. Just FYI. So many devices use 3G (OnStar, vehicle communications a la Tesla, cell phones, tablets, personal safety devices, etc etc etc etc ad nauseum) that I think 3G will be around at least 5+ years. - - -...

First - some of are you talking about 4G LTE in cars as if it's been a standard for years and Tesla is behind. The 2015 Audi A3 was the first car ever in the US market with 4G LTE, and now Chevy is putting it on lots of models too. But it's certainly not widespread yet. I agree with the...

VZW is different than the other carriers - they're really the only ones on their towers. They are the only major CDMA player in America. GSM on the other hand encompasses about every other wireless carrier. (Sprint is the only other "major" CDMA player but they are hovering at 7% of the market)

That's rich, coming from you.

That's what always happens with these foreign cars, bad translations. Converting from Californian to English is hard work.

I really hate it when the Nissan Leaf is better than the Model S at anything. Their app-HVAC-pre-warm (or cool) lets you turn on the seat heaters, the heated steering wheel and any HVAC settings you want, including defroster.

Three months until my 85D delivery.. starting to plan ahead. Usual stuff, the charging station, thinking about solar panels, wondering how many brownies we have to sell to cover the downpayment.. Anyone else scouring the attic for junk to sell to make room in the piggy bank for the new car...

Maybe you can find tires with a treadwear warranty for your next set?

For added safety you may wear an airbag vest (go to 48 seconds in):

In other news - The Lindbergh baby has gone missing!

Yep I was confusing them, thanks for clarifying.

"Reasonable amount of time" might be 72 hours or 14 days. Not the 36 months of the Happiness Guarantee.

Love the edit. You're totally fooling all of us.

I was told it is installable after delivery for an additional $500 by the local Tesla sales rep.

Wow I didn't know that - so the $2500 isn't just the seat + installation, it's bumper protection too. Good to know.

I've always been into the cars that a little out of the ordinary. I had an Isuzu VehiCROSS, I'm leasing a Nissan Leaf, and own a 1991 Lotus Elan. I always wanted a Qvale Mangusta but as I got older the look of it stopped appealing to me as much. What have you owned that's weird or unique...

No SC will install a used seat.

Forgive me, but screw those people. People that don't use their turn signals are a bane of humanity.

I test drove a car with those features and liked them. But seriously with the complaining, you can turn them off in two seconds. I would love a self-parking feature as they've discussed. It's been available for 8 years in all sorts of brands and models. From the Lexus LS to the Ford Focus.

I think the only appropriate resolution will be a 1990's Style American Gladiators Joust!

Honestly? Are you messing with me or do you really not know how to read? The ESA says you must follow Tesla's maintenance schedule. Tesla's maintenance schedule says to bring it to Tesla every year. If you can't follow that, I suggest perhaps you ought not be in the business of reading or...

RESOLUTION IN OUR FAVOR I reached out to Tesla and got a firm unambiguous response - Tesla service is NOT required to keep the ESA valid. I am CORRECT that the ESA contract does stipulate this, however they are revising the verbiage to be clear that service is NOT required and once it passes...

Quite clear? Not even close. The ESA says this: So it's quite clear that for the ESA to remain valid you must follow all Tesla service recommendations. This is not ambiguous. In your Tesla owner's manual under maintenance, you will read this: So - putting one foot in front of the other...

I wouldn't worry. From the article about the hacked car from the Vegas conference: "While they discovered numerous potential exploits, they also found the hacks needed to open the cars’ computers to mischief to be time-consuming, expensive, and difficult. Don’t expect your Bluetooth-enabled...

Umm - aren't they free now?

Autonomous Driving - HAL Is My Co-Pilot - Road & Track

You're going to have to wait quite a while. The X isn't coming out for at least a year.

Reason for this thread? Here it is: I've been wondering loudly if the service plans are worth it, and if the ESA is valid without getting yearly service. Then a purported Tesla service tech posted this in my thread: So of course I was curious what he was talking about. Conclusion? Sounds...

I'm sure the 85D is cannibalizing X sales like crazy. I wasn't planning on getting a Model S but ordered the morning after the D was announced!

Thank you for that. Puts my mind at ease.

Don't get me wrong - I am planning on doing it myself also. But that doc came out 2/13 so it's approaching its second birthday.

A) That list is from nearly 2 years ago and is reported to be out of date B) I don't disagree (although you may void the warranty changing coolant yourself), except that it's in our contract that to maintain your warranty you must BRING IT TO TESLA. Not perform the work - bring it to them to...

Why would they cut two checks? They're paying off the loan and you get to walk away, no car and no loan.