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  1. Rango

    Tesla has ruined me for life...

    So i live in a condo as well that i'm pretty sure that does not have charging available. It's old 1950s build i think. I visited supercharger that is 5 miles away from my condo and out of 10 spots 2 were used, one model S, one model 3. It's in ABT electronics/appliances store parking lot. I...
  2. Rango

    Rear-ended @ 70+ mph in my Model S

    If you guys are in need of dashcam Viofo A129 Duo has fantastic optics in night and day and is cheap $169. Fantastic value. Don't bother view Blackvue. Too expensive and optics (f=value) is not great. If you need parking surveillance then go with Thinkware F800pro. Viofo also has parking...
  3. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    Damn, that's the same thing but with model S. I bet all those routes are pre-mapped /geo-fenced so car knows how to behave. Model 3 is more smooth it seems but model S did well. Looks like independent owners youtube testing is best way to go as at least that's real not some tesla demonstration...
  4. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    I think they wanna use Model 3 for robo taxi as it has nothing on the inside one can steal, very little to damage and if it can then it's cheap to replace. Not so with Model S. Also drive train is made for 1M miles, Elon said. I think Model S is too expensive for robo taxi but maybe they will...
  5. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    This does look like FSD to me. Guy didn't even touch the steering wheel for whole drive. Granted this is model 3 with latest FSD module and Tesla 2 chips. Still very impressive. Give them another 8 months to ramp up the production of this FSD module and it will be here for rest of the models...
  6. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    Good tips. I can't get over Model 3 having NO dashboard and having nothing but screen inside. That i can't get over. It reminds me of prius inside. Nope for me. Also i like having informational panel in eyes line of sight, where dashboard is so you can glance at it by moving eyes down. To the...
  7. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    So i'm assuming Automatic driving on city streets & Recognize and respond to traffic lights and stop signs is NOT coming to EAP even tho you're keeping rest of the grandfathered features. You would have to upgrade to FSD package and have HW3=FSD module in order to get that? If that is the...
  8. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    Thank you everyone. I keep confusing HW2 with AP2, even tho both would accomplish what i want. From what i've also read EAP = AP2 as well. Thank you for that cpo website too. That helps. I think it may be wise to wait and see if Tesla will upgrade CPU to FSD module in their CPO fleet vehicles...
  9. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    Is Enhanced AP or just AP enough for FSD upgrade?
  10. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    Looks like requirement is AutoPilot NOT Enhance AP, but since it need 8 cameras it means AP 2.0 or higher correct? As far as hardware once one pay for FSD package Tesla swaps to new CPU they just showed. Is that right AP not EAP needed?
  11. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    Ok so spending extra money on Enhanced auto pilot is completely useless correct? I can buy AP 2.0 enabled hardware lets say in 2017 model or Oct 2016 plus model and just pay Tesla $5k for FSD package? I guess is AP or EAP required for FSD package to be added? It seems EAP is waste of money when...
  12. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    I think i want Tesla with solid front bumper which i think it's Oct 2016 which i think all of those are AP2 correct? They look more fresh. That mouth grill i think it's getting dated look a bit already. So basically i should shoot for Oct 2016 plus ? BTW is Performance P (ludacris) worth it...
  13. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    This is what this article is saying. The way I understand it and i could totally be off hence i ask you guys. But if original owner already paid for AP why would i pay for it again? It's there already. Lets say car i buy 2017 Model S that has AP 2.0 already i'm just adding second option FSD...
  14. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    So upgrade for FSD is not available yet. We're getting there. Not sure if you guys seen this but this is dev version of firmware
  15. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    aha thank you very much. One more thing. As long as i have 8 cameras why would i care what version of auto pilot i have when i give Elon $3k for FSD package upgrade he will swap CPU to one pictured above and i will have AP version 3 correct with firmware that enables all features that come on...
  16. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    This is FSD module Elon showed today in autonomous day. This is the hardware swap i'm referring to when one purchase FSD package. Notice no more Nvidia chips. Tesla chips now.
  17. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    Aha thank you. That makes sense. So cameras are there just not active.So from private party - i have to make sure it has cameras in side marker instead of emblem and is post Oct 2016 production correct? and Tesla website? one has to call them as they do not list AP version on their website...
  18. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    What about cameras count? I was under impression 4 is not enough and it needs 8 total for FSD capability? I'm talking about Tesla car having capability of CPU module hardware swap without retrofitting entire car with new hardware like cameras etc. Something Elon said they won't do (ap1) ? Elon...
  19. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    Thank you guys. I'm referring to purchase of USED tesla S for someone that currently DOES NOT own a Tesla vehicle. I want to purchase USED Tesla S with 8 cameras which i'm told is only version capable to be upgraded to FSD computer (same computer in model 3 HW3.0 i think) threw Tesla service...
  20. Rango

    Used Teslas FSD module upgrade path?

    Hi guys. So Tesla on their website have used (off lease) S models available for sale. When i go to check out there is NO option to upgrade to FSD computer at all. It just goes to payment option. I believe from what i've read here upgrade price to FSD would be $3k? Tesla (Enhanced) Autopilot vs...