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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    I fear you may be right - looking at the app over the past few hours, it's always saying "0 of 16 available" for Thurrock, but without the "busy site" or "xxx minutes wait time" shown against others where all the stalls are genuinely in use. Thetford (which is also known to be closed for...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    Yes, the original 24-stall plan was clearly Tesla + Gridserve; it looks very much like this new reduced plan is Gridserve only. Hard to know from the outside whether it's funding or power availability that's reduced the ambition - the change to the McD plans is clearly a cheaper option, and...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    OK, thanks. Those 6 new are in the location taken by 2 on the original plan plus space freed up by the fact the original plan had to assume the carpark entry/exit were to be moved for the proposed drive-through building on the left, now cancelled). The new plan however does mean that some of...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    The new one (24/00322) says in the planning statement document: Externally, the Site is served by a picnic area and benches to the west, and car park to the south which provides 158 spaces, including 24 electrical charging vehicle points and references the older 20/03020. It doesn't mention...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    This application is a bit odd. It shows 6 superchargers (and 2 cabinets) under "existing plan", then 10 more (total 16, 4 cabinets) under "proposed". But AFAIK there aren't any there at the moment, and if you go looking in the planning history for the site there's no previous Tesla...
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    Here's how to charge with 32A commando in UK

    Something must be lost in translation there. Zappi has integral PME fault protection, and even if you were using one that didn't, you would normally fit the PME fault protection nearby rather than back at the incoming supply. So I think you mean something other than PME here. You could. This...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    Certainly having incomplete or out-of-date info can be much worse than useless. I recently parked/charged at a Source London point in Barnet tube station carpark. There was no signage, and Source London' website is useless - it says that most of their locations parking is included, but at...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    Bar Hill (Cambridge) hasn't appeared as a "permit" site on Supercharge.info, despite being discussed here and planning permission granted July 2023. However, it won't be opening any time soon: the permission is for demolish and rebuild as a Service Centre, and I dropped by last week to check...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    Also interesting among those documents is this one: https://www.nationalgrid.co.uk/downloads-view-reciteme/231505 containing a ranking of various service areas in terms of the ease of installing one of these large connections. Don't expect much charging expansion at Severn View services in the...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    Not impossible that Welcome Break/Applegreen is another customer of Tesla's new charging hardware supply business.
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    I'm pretty sure that what I said (units of 25%) is still true, as it's a fundamental hardware feature. How those units are shared between the two stalls is a software matter and has changed over time. Taking away the first-car-priority potentially changes the probability of the various...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    Recent V3 cabinets have 385kVA@480V input (for 4 stalls) compared to V2 with 160kVA@480V so V3 about 20% more input per stall. Possibly V3 are slightly more efficient, but there's only room for that to be a couple of percentage points of difference. More significant is the sharing, where V2...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    Compared to a V2 site, it should do. So if you were sitting there drawing your 85kW max, on V2 you would be reducing whoever is on the adjacent stall down to 35kW. Or conversely, if a Tesla got there first you would only get 35kW, well below your capability even if tapered down from the max...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    It is, as it's always been, a bit of marketing: "look, we're building loads more superchargers, life is going to get better, ignore those doomsayers who say there's not enough charging". They could just say "we're spending $$$ on more charging", but the map gives much more of a statement of...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    Do the new longer cables allow a Tesla to also use the wrong stall to compensate? Maybe go in forwards and you can then pick the one on the other side? I seem to remember this being already possible even with the short cables at some sites (Darts Farm) given relaxed dimensions on the bays...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    It looks rather like the whole development is new - the buildings, the tarmac, the brick-paved disabled spaces opposite, even the housing estate in the background. In fact, the dirtiest-looking bit of the whole photo is the "EV" paved spaces next to the superchargers: looks like the development...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    I don't know of any UK examples (other than sites where physical constraints don't allow a multiple-of-4 set of stalls). Where it does occur, another reason may be voltage. For the size of sites currently being installed, UK locations are very unlikely to have existing capacity at LV, so Tesla...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    You'd expect (in the absence of local factors forcing something sub-optimal) that the supply connection would be sized for the full input rating of the cabinets. That already contains a significant scaling factor compared to the output rating: 385kVA input for a cabinet that can in principle...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    V3 cabinets are 350kVA or 385kVA at 480V input according to their rating plate (there was a change sometime around 2022). V2 cabinets are 160kVA at 480V input. All of these superchargers are constrained by a max current rating rather than power - so V2 is 192A per phase and hence 160kVA at 480V...
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    Here's how to charge with 32A commando in UK

    These are two different things. Your new fuse allows you a higher instantaneous demand. The thing they are concerned about is long-duration demand: your EV charging may well have fitted within your existing 60A fuse, but could still cause them problems. A 100A fuse is 23kW. A typical EV...
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    Here's how to charge with 32A commando in UK

    Doepke are the ones pushing "Type EV". https://www.rapidonline.com/doepke-dfs4-040-2-0-03-a-ev-2p-40a-30ma-type-a-ev-rccb-28-4800 There's certainly some meat in that retail price to pay somebody a big commission, but sadly it's not me! There's no such thing as "safe". The only way to avoid the...
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    Here's how to charge with 32A commando in UK

    PEN protection The PEN conductor is used in the supply cable in the street - combining Earth and Neutral in a single wire (which you aren't allowed to do within your installation, ie. downstream of the meter earth and neutral are separate wires). This is only one of several earthing systems...
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    Here's how to charge with 32A commando in UK

    Not really. More like when the local DNO has skimped on maintenance of their 50+ year-old cable plant, or some plonker with a JCB is digging down the street. The broken PEN problem arises entirely outside your installation, and (if it occurs) will bite you even if all your equipment is in 100%...
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    Here's how to charge with 32A commando in UK

    But throughout the Tesla era, PME faults have been a concern - with the historic solution being to use TT earthing instead on the chargepoint/socket (plus a variety of alternatives, most of which were impractical). This was in the 1st edition Code of Practice for Electric Vehicle Charging...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    EV charging is Permitted Development (ie. no planning permission required) with various rules. This used to be a max height of 1.6m, so I was wondering if the new V4 stalls fell foul of that, but it seems they've been and amended the regulations while I haven't been looking: it's still 1.6m for...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    I was about to write "it's not open until it shows on the app/in-car", but just checked and it does show on the app! Someone got there quick - 7 out of 8 available....
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    Hydrogen vs. Battery

    Power density, sure. Energy density however is normally well behind that of lithium-ion batteries - and since BEVs already have plenty of power once you fit a li-ion battery of sufficient capacity to give adequate range, it's the energy density that matters for this application. Unless you...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    Rather unclear what this application actually seeks approval for - all the detail drawings (including one with the HV and LV substations marked 'proposed') are of the existing setup. There's just another substation enclosure now shown with no indication what it's for. But it's fairly clear...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    White-label charger management is also available; the biggest example that comes to mind is ChargeplaceScotland - which is a brand of the Scottish Govermnent but contracted-out operations (currently to SWARCO, but has had several changes of operator over its life). However, it looks like...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    Historically, Tesla and Welcome Break were very close: the MD of WB drove a Model S, WB were enthusiastic about having Tesla on as many sites as possible and were cooperative in breaking the Ecotricity monopoly. However, WB were later taken over by Applegreen (and the Tesla-friendly MD moved...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    Planning application here (reference 23/00732/FUL if the link doesn't work): https://publicaccess.portsmouth.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?keyVal=RW59IZMOJ9T00&activeTab=summary Location is here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/50%C2%B050'24.3%22N+1%C2%B005'46.4%22W 12 V4...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    I think the ponies in that picture are identical to the ones in the photo just above from Reading - only difference is the trench has been back-filled.
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    Also, nothing stopping them from charging a premium price to non-Tesla owners (as they do already at the sites that are open)
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    Here's how to charge with 32A commando in UK

    If it's as you describe, then it's questionable. The reason the 13A plug adaptor is limited to 10A by the UMC is the heating effect from the fuse potentially causing long-term degradation. Here as I understand it you have the exact same 13A BS1362 fuse in a fused spur unit and then a...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    It is unlikely that this proposed installation will support continuous 22kW at all stalls simultaneously. If Tesla is using their own equipment, it costs them nothing to make them 22kW max with power sharing between groups of stalls rather than artificially limiting them to a lower rating...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    This does seem to make clear that the "V4 supercharger" phrase that keeps being thrown around is a misnomer: as shown on the drawing, it's a V4 post, but a V3 supercharger.
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    UK and Ireland Marketplace - For Sale / Wanted / Free

    Found a photo of one and hence traced the manufacturer: https://raydiall.com/cable-connectors-for-automotive-industry/ac-power-plug-type-2-43kw/ One of those would almost certainly do the job, but where you can find one (and at what price!) I couldn't say.
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    UK and Ireland Marketplace - For Sale / Wanted / Free

    Aha, thanks for confirming that. It makes sense for that generation of cars, which could do 16A per phase per charger, normally used doubled-up for 32A single phase connected conventionally, and paralleled up with the V1 UMC for 32A single phase on cars with only one charger. All Model S in...
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    UK and Ireland Marketplace - For Sale / Wanted / Free

    What exactly is this? Unless it's for the original Roadster, I don't think any Wall Connector matching that description was ever sold in the UK. OTOH, it seems a bit odd-ball for anything other than the Roadster: as I understand it, Model S/3/X in Australia uses the Type 2 connector (like we...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    Yes, but that's true of almost any journey where you need significant charging en-route.
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    Well, you might be tempted to do that already to avoid traffic (I know I did as a child going on holiday to Cornwall in the pre-EV era, and I've done it more recently despite having free supercharging). So the saving of a couple of quid might be enough to tilt the balance for a reasonable...
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    Can you charge other EV using your portable Tesla UMC?

    To blow it up, you need: Gen1 UMC 32A blue commando adapter (and a suitable 32A supply to plug it into, from which about 96A will be drawn)
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    Can you charge other EV using your portable Tesla UMC?

    You wouldn't be the first TMC member to do so. Neither Zoe nor UMC enjoyed the encounter.
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    It's really quite a stretch calling revision H of the same part number as V3 to be "V4". Maybe Tesla have indeed done so as a pure marketing move (and likely to the annoyance of engineering staff if so!), but I don't think even that is entirely confirmed. Is that @TeslaCharging twitter...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    That video doesn't add any information about the superchargers (it does, as you say, give info about a good range of non-Tesla 800V cars). There's really no information so far to say Tesla are supporting 1000V. The rating on the stalls was 1000V three years ago and is 1000V now. The V3...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    That's actually a LOWER rating than Supercharger V3. Recent rating plates for the V3 cabinets show the per-stall output at 631A (greater than 615A). The voltage rating is irrelevant as the voltage is set by the car and no Tesla vehicles go above 500V. The rating for the stall itself is just a...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    I notice the plan has a lounge with "keypad and guidance for automated door" - implying 24hr unattended access to lounge and toilets for supercharger users. Are there any other sites with this? Also two areas on the floorplan marked "battery repair" (with "ESD floor mats" and "rescue pole")...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    That's not an equal comparison with current equipment. It's closer to 8 or 9 chargers that don't slow down. If you wanted 24 chargers that could deliver 120kW without slowing down, then that would need about 8 V3 supercharger cabinets and a power supply to match. If your point is that you'd...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    Has any Tesla source actually described this as V4? Sites like Elektrek are keen to shout out "V(n+1)" when they see so much as a change in the fixing hardware, but Tesla has used V1/V2/V3 to apply to cabinet generations and has not referred to the different stall designs (of which there have...
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    Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

    A few interesting things in that application, though the council haven't bothered putting up the covering letter that is referenced in the application form and might give more details. It's specified in two phases - 12 stalls/3 cabinets to be fitted immediately, ground works in place to upgrade...