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Not functional before Q4 unfortunately, per Tesla's own website.

Same here except it was mid April in my case, and for a third-party replacement. I have sent several email reminders, no reply whatsoever. The frustrating part is that it seems most owners in the exact same situation have been reimbursed months ago, we haven't, no clue why, and it seems...

Caroliene, the SuCs really are more than enough all the way from the NL to the S-W tip of Portugal. From experience, this was already the case in 2019 when I first did this, and in the meantime several SuCs have opened or are about to open. My main recommendation was that you ensure your car...

Looking for WHEEL NUTS for Model S (P85D, 2015) - higher quality than Tesla's original material I need to buy at least 2 of the 20 and would rather replace them all - Tesla's original nuts seem to be low quality / low resilience. What would you recommend for high quality at a reasonable cost...

I need to buy at least 2 of the 20 and would rather replace them all - Tesla's original nuts seem to be low quality / low resilience. What would you recommend for high quality at a reasonable cost, available in the EU and deliverable within few days / 1 week? Lastly, if anyone has unused or...

I am surprised to see that the process has started in the EU, at least in Finland... ... but apparently not yet in Belgium, where I assume Tesla believes myself and my MS "reside". A possible explanation could be Tesla choosing to sweep the "Old Continent" from NE to SW, in which case my...

Boa tarde a todos! Depois de muitos anos no Benelux regressei recentemente a Lisboa. Felizmente trouxe o Tesla :-) Mas ja apareceu uma chatice e ocorreu-me postar aqui, na esperanca que algum conterraneo queira pelo menos aconselhar o que encomendar, e onde. E se alguem tiver para venda...

I need to buy at least 2 of the 20 wheel nuts and would rather replace them all (Tesla's own stuff seems to be low quality / low resilience). What would you recommend for higher quality at a reasonable cost, available in the EU and deliverable within days / 1 week? Obviously, if anyone has...

It seems indeed that the BMS does have "targets" it's trying to keep by running the pumps... but I've been wondering whether those targets are likely to be voltage(s). Could it perhaps be that the BMS is actually trying to keep Temperature targets and what we observe is a consequence of that...

CHARGING IN DUBROVNIK Hello, Who knows a spot to charge for free or at least inexpensively in Dubrovnik? I saw there's a Tesla Destination Charger at the central Parking garage, but there I assume one needs to pay the parking fee during the charging... while in fact I don't need to park there...

Hello, Who knows a spot to charge for free or at least inexpensively in Dubrovnik? I saw there's a Tesla Destination Charger at the central Parking garage, but there I assume one needs to pay the parking fee during the charging... while in fact I don't need to park there at all. Thanks a lot...

Not clear to me how to read your 2nd paragraph. How do you experience faster (higher average rate / less taper) supercharging? With range mode ON, or OFF?

@johnman10 , and other residents in NL (EU more in general I believe), just FYI [NL] Gezamelijke (juridische) stappen tegen Tesla ivm accu limitaties

Sluit me ook graag aan en bereid om kosten te delen. Vind alleen al principieel dat Tesla niet weg mag komen met hoe ze dit hele verhaal aanpakken - er is hier een zekere effect van precedent. Dit kan niet. Ken vele juristen maar geen advocaten die zich met zulke zaken bezig houden. Verder zou...

Mijn speculatie is dat je thuis en werkadres ook een rol spelen. Namelijk: dicht bij "huis" zal je trager laden dan wanneer echt op reis. Adressen hoeven niet eens ingesteld te zijn natuurlijk, kan me niet voorstellen dat je locatiehistorik niet wordt bewaard. Zou goed kunnen dat dit invloed...

Ik heb juist deze vraag gesteld een tijd geleden, uiteraard als pure speculatie, en kreeg niemand mee in deze hypothese. Eerlijk gezegd lijkt het me geen slechte manier om te stimuleren dat SuC's worden gebruikt zoals bedoeld: overbruggen van lange afstanden, en niet voor het dagelijks laden.

Dank je @RudiDL . Kan het zijn dat deze verschillen in SuC laadsnelheden een bewuste doelstelling zijn van Tesla? Ik bedoel, sneller SuC'en wanneer echt op reis (dus buiten je eigen land of evt regio) en trager wanneer je ("in theorie"...) ook andere laadmogelijkheden zou hebben?

Updated to 2019.40.2.3. As expected my car is now supposed to "better detect battery performance degradation" ... Nominal capacity is now 73.7 kWh while it was 73.8 last time I checked. Such a small difference is not likely to result from the update right? Of course the update could be a...

My P85 2013 was still on 2019.24.4 and received an update over 3G (!) a couple days ago. First I was clicking it away but now I allowed it to install to test a theory. I've felt a drop in max power (and more frequent dashed lines) while driving at higher SoC, as well as weaker regen, since the...

Honestly now, could there be a direct connection between your statements on this thread / TMC, and Tesla's 'demand' that you update the FM? Refusing to update may be used as an argument against honoring the warranty on your battery, but contractually they cannot force you, can they?

@SMU , heb je deze nog? Stuur je PM met hoeveel je ervoor moet hebben en waar je woont? Bedankt!

Mocht je nog overwegen te verkopen "as is", zou ik graag willen weten hoeveel je minimaal moet hebben - stuur je PM? Bedankt!

Dank je Rob. Ja dat is uiteraard mijn fall-back optie. Alleen, nogmaals, ik heb het nooit gedaan - weet bijv niet hoe aan de auto's aansluiting te geraken - en zou graag gebruik maken van de ervaring van een mede-eigenaar. Daarom zoek ik iemand die zo'n adapter al heeft...

(helaas) weer een post van mij om te verduidelijken dat het geen OBD hoeft te zijn. Ik dacht namelijk dat dit de type aansluiting was op mijn MS maar dat schijnt niet te kloppen. Dus, voor alle duidelijkheid, dit gaat over gegevens kunnen lezen van mijn P85 uit 2013. Wat er precies voor nodig...

... zou het helpen als ik vermeld dat ik meer dan bereid ben te betalen voor het mogen gebruiken van andermans adapter, zelfs eenmalig? En desnoods wil ik ook verder rijden dan 120 kms. Stel je zou willen helpen maar je woont in Amsterdam, laat het aub toch even weten ;-) Nogmaals dank bij...

Ik wil graag de 'diagnostics' gegevens van mijn MS zien, namelijk mbt de HV batterij: nominal en usable kWh, cell voltage... Handigste aanpak lijkt te zijn via OBD port met een "STN1100" adapter, gebruik makend van een app zoals ScanMyTesla. Alleen heb ik zelf geen adapter. Ben natuurlijk wel...

Intussen is de eerste pagina een samenvatting. Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

@RudiDL en @Phil_BE , hebben jullie gezien in de engelstalige thread dat de NHTSA nu daadwerkelijk gestart is met een onderzoek en allerlei scherpe vragen heeft gesteld aan Tesla? In parallel is er mediation opgestart ihkv de Class Action van DJRas. In de beide trajecten heb ik de indruk dat er...

Based in Belgium here. And not an attorney but some experience with somewhat comparable matters. Indeed probably not automatically binding for Tesla towards their non-US customers. But consumer protection regulations are in general as if not more strict in the EU than the US. Especially when...

Well from Tesla's perspective I can imagine this variability is exactly what they don't want to or even simply CANNOT deal with. They may well believe that every single capped owner - or in fact EVERY owner if it turns out the issues are widespread - has a different assessment of what they're...

Well... on the one hand this seems to strengthen the case for the owners of the - supposedly - "SMALL number of OLDER cars"... ... on the other hand this can very well be a break-the-company issue. That would help to explain why they refuse to communicate and seem willing to spend a fortune on...

Since the updates it doesn't seem to charge to 100% anymore, stops somewhere between 97% (SuC) and 99% (UMC). "Typical range" is now around 365 kms and seems to be falling further. When I bought the car in April I clearly remember getting >375 kms consistently (usually extrapolated from 90% or...

@pvh , hartelijk dank hiervoor, zeer nuttig. Ik heb mijn P85 2e hands gekocht en zulke info zat er niet bij. Zou je hier een scan/foto kunnen zetten van dat bestelpagina?

Thanks @DJRas. But honestly I'm in fact really looking for a YES/NO reply ;-) Do you think the figures I posted for energy consumed while driving (1 trip, during the day with mild temperatures, no HVAC) are more likely to come from a capped 85 pack, or not capped? Or too inconclusive? I should...

I don't have access to the diagnostics port of my 2013 P85 (180k Kms), but do suspect it's been capped. So over the last few weeks I've been keeping track of what the MCU shows as energy consumption during driving and energy uptake during charging. Extrapolating these to 100% I get roughly: -...

Pushing updates through LTE could indeed suggest they consider these particular updates to have safety implications.

This: @Chaserr , I've mentioned this here a couple times. There have to be explanations/motivations for their behaviour that remain unknown to us. I simply do not believe their (apparently) destructive behaviour can be driven only by stubbornness or let's say "egos".

@RudiDL , heb je nog antwoord gekregen op je 2e (of 3e) brief naar Aartselaar? Volgens mij had je ze tot 9 oktober gegeven?

Well... so @Droschke , do I understand correctly that you believe Tesla believes that they will, indeed, get away with this? Or at the very least that the negative impact (for Tesla) of the current strategy, even if they lose, will be smaller than the impact of addressing and solving the problem...

Must admit I still struggle with this. I mean, there is - I guess - no doubt that Elon is an intelligent guy himself. And there should still be enough smart people left in their organisation. Let's assume so at least. I can somehow understand how the very first reaction of a large corporation...

Reflecting a bit on all this, I'm led to the impression that the chief objective of both forced limitations (usable capacity and charge rate) is likely to be, simply, preventing that these batteries reach higher SoC's (say >=90% in actual terms). Why? Well probably Tesla was triggered by safety...

Good point @Blu Zap . Do you mean by this that you got the problem solved (battery uncapped, refurbished or replaced) by showing this - which indeed seems darn close to "proof" to me - at a Tesla SeC?

@RudiDL , Zoals ik al eerder schreef (ook via PM) ben ik idd bereid om aan advocatenkosten bij te dragen.

This, exactly this, is why for now I still assume they will (have to) turn around before this gets to (a) court. Yes we all see that their actions until now suggest otherwise but we can also assume that's typical decentralized knee-jerk reaction. I find it immensely difficult to believe that a...

Dank je wel @RudiDL . Ik moet ook zeker iets doen, probeer wel een aanpak te bedenken waarmee we elkaar versterken. Ljkt me dan tactisch slimmer om de komende 1.5 week at te wachten en dan afhankelijk van hun reactie (of niet) mijn eigen klacht neerleggen...

I thought about this as well, and agree. However the current approach may still make sense from Tesla's perspective: 1. Are our cars simply the 1st batches of a "fleet-worsening" / moving average program which would continue over the next months (especially if the resistance of the current...

On the range/battery capping issue: could it be that what Tesla is trying to achieve is that all fleet averages worsen much quicker than the trends until now? With the double objective of 1. trying to get the affected owners to accept this as degradation and 'protection' (perhaps choosing them...

@RudiDL , heb je al iets van Tesla gehoord? Zoals ik je ook in PM zei, wil ik graag aansluiten bij 'class action' mocht dag nodig blijken. Uit de engelstalige forum is het evident dat er vele gevallen zijn en dat ze het serieus nemen. Hun class action (onder US regelgeving) gaat Tesla dwingen...

This is rather difficult to wrap one's head around. Putting aside TM Spy, just with regard to the info displayed by the car itself. Are we actually saying that the "projected" range assumes ALL energy stored in the battery will be used, INCLUDING the buffer? In that case the car is projecting...

@Ferrycraigs , thanks a lot! Yes indeed for now this precision level is enough. Just to make sure, does the calculated capacity include or exclude the 4 kWh "reserve" that everyone mentions? My guess is that these 4 kWh are NOT included in the resulting figure? Otherwise the display would by...