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    got email describing VPP payout today

    For taxes, it could be considered a rebate on the cost of energy that you spent, not additional earned income. That is how the IRS treats a lot of these. We got a rebate from the state (CA) for installing our powerwalls. Not income tax on that.
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    Discussion: Tesla Energy / Auto Customer Service

    Does anyone have a sense of what percentage of the solar roof (not panels) buyers have been unhappy with the purchase. We have been quite satisfied with our Solar City panels from 2009 and Powerwalls from 2021. However, we are replacing our roof on our almost 50 year old house, and the cost...
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    Solar Roof vs. Panels

    We are having an extensive remodel, including replacing our roof. Our contractor's price for the new roof (including insulation, gutters, flashing and the metal roof is about the same price as a Tesla solar roof and 2 powerwalls, not figuring in the Federal tax credit. So the net cost of the...
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    got email describing VPP payout today

    I got my check yesterday. Just under $400. I have 3 powerwalls set to 20% and am in the SF East Bay.
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    98 Score - Got FSD Beta?

    Went up to 98 for the first time yesterday, and noticed that my Safety Score disappeared when I updated to 2021.44.26.6, Surprised to see I got FSD with 10.8. Been sitting at 97 for a long time. :)
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    The unofficial "when do I get my FSD beta update" FAQ

    Just posted in another thread that we got FSD Beta tonight. We upgraded to 44.25.6 today and had been at 97 yesterday, but the safety score disappeared today and probably went up to 98. Great Christmas present - will test it out tomorrow.
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    Trying to Make Sense of Recent Software Versions, Update Numbers, and Downloads

    Not sure whether the Safety Score disappears when you qualify for FSD, but we did tonight!! Won't try it out until tomorrow. We have version 10.8 which I think just rolled out. I didn't see my safety score just before I got it, but I was at 97 yesterday, and think I probably went up to 98...
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    Trying to Make Sense of Recent Software Versions, Update Numbers, and Downloads

    I just updated my new MS LR to 2021.44.25.6 today (Christmas Day in the US). Looks like my Safety Score has disappeared. Currently I am at 97, so getting up to 98 should get me FSD pretty soon. However, it just disappeared. It was there yesterday when I had 2021.44.25.2. Thanks.
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    Font Size Change

    Is there a way of enlarging the Font Size on the Touch Screen or Driver's side screen. We have a new MS LR. My wife doesn't have 20/20 vision and cannot read the controls easily on the touch screen when driving. Thanks.
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    How much $ to retire and how to fund your lifestyle in retirement

    I think that withdrawals from pre tax accounts are counted in MAGI, but not withdrawals from Roths. So there wouldn't be a cascade effect from a Roth withdrawal, a non Roth IRA withdrawal could be a cascade. Also if you have other investments outside a Roth or IRA that generate capital gains...
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    How much $ to retire and how to fund your lifestyle in retirement

    If you have non IRA funds to pay the taxes on the Roth conversion, this allows you to maximize the amount inside the Roth. The additional great benefit of a Roth is that you can use it as an estate planning vehicle, since there is no RMD as in an IRA. It also continues to grow tax free for 10...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Thanks for the clarification. So it will also include pensions, social security. Since I converted my entire IRA/401k,403b/457 from my almost 40 year career in teaching to a Roth back in 2011 and then invested the whole thing in TSLA in late 2013 to early 2015, I now have a 40 bagger and am...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The fundamental key seems to me is the dominance Tesla has in building the machine that builds the machine. That allows them to build a superior car at a much lower cost and much faster rate. Capex investment in a new factory or line is so much smaller than anyone else. They also can modify...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Thanks for the graphs. Interesting to follow the changes in pricing. As a comparison, my first Model S, ordered in June 2012 and delivered in Feb 2013 had the 85 battery and grey paint, with the backward facing seats. The total price including CA tax was $104K. There was a $10K rebate ($7500...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Currently, Tesla has a $7500 per car price disadvantage compared to all EV makers except GM (which currently is not producing any EVs). With that disadvantage, Tesla has an 80% market share of EV's in the US. If the bill passes with the $4500 union made subsidy, Tesla will gain $3000 price...
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    Tax discussion, strategies and questions

    Here is my Roth IRA story. Back in 2011 or 2012, I rolled over my accumulated career contributions (to 403b and 457) after a 40 year career in teaching and administering in a community college. I had tried to put the maximum amount each year that I could afford into the tax deferred accounts...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Have people seen this explanation of Gordon Johnson's attitude about Tesla? If this is true, it would explain a lot. I don't follow all the posts on TMC, so this may have been posted earlier.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It depends on whether you know how to drive a car. :)
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Hertz has a history of having star NFL players featured in their ads. Back in the day they had Orenthal James Simpson, who would leap over a Hertz car in their ads.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    If VW is able to follow Diess and successfully transition to EV's, I would think that VW could be in a position to help fill the gap between the demand for EV's in 2030 that Tesla will not be able to fill. I would guess that between 50 and 100 million cars will be sold in 2030 (the lower number...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_corporations_by_market_capitalization#2021 This for the 3rd Quarter 2021 from wiki. 9 was Tencent and 10 was Nvidia. Looks like you have a different list.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    And a decade ago in 2011 (according to wiki) half of the top ten publicly traded companies in market cap were oil companies. Today all of the top ten are tech companies (including Tesla) except for Berkshire Hathaway. Nvidia made the top ten for the first time with a market cap over 500...
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    10/10/2021 Is anyone seeing Storm Watch activated?

    Mine went on early this morning and the grid charged my batteries to 100% before sunrise. I am in 94563 (SF East Bay). We did get a weather watch storm warning, but nothing from the police or PGE. So I shut off the Storm Watch on the app at 3PM, and the Powerwalls are providing some of the...
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    2021,31,101.1 V10.2 No FSD Request Button

    I just got my 2021.32.22 update and will be pushing the request FSD button. Thanks for the help.
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    Understanding The Decline In Tesla’s FSD Take Rate

    With FSD available for $199 a month, it doesn't make sense for most people to pay $10K up front for the possibility of getting a Beta version. According to what I have read, if you get the monthly subscription, you can still request the FSD Beta. If you get it and you like it, you can continue...
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    System is switching from grid to PowerWalls during free off-peak period.

    I am using PGE EV2-A. Can I charge my powerwalls during the off peak times? I see that happens when we get a Storm Watch warning and the powerwalls fill up to 100% in anticipation of a power outage. However, when we have less sunlight or higher air conditioning needs during the peak and...
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    2021,31,101.1 V10.2 No FSD Request Button

    Thanks for the suggestion. I just connected to the wifi (had to enter my wifi password.) It connected. Hopefully that will do the trick.
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    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    For those keeping count, my MS LR delivered today has a VIN of 44717X. My first MS 85 has a VIN of 4360.
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    2021,31,101.1 V10.2 No FSD Request Button

    Thanks, Tam. Much appreciated. Wanted to push the FSD Request button as the first thing I did with the MS LR. I've been playing with some of the controls. Wow, Tesla has made incredible leaps ahead in the 8 1/2 years since our first Model S. I can see how software is the heart of the car.
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    2021,31,101.1 V10.2 No FSD Request Button

    I just received my brand new MS LR. It has V10.2 2021.31.101.1. It says this is the current software. However, I don't see the Request FSD Beta button on the Autopilot page. I have the FSD option in the car. Any thoughts? Thanks.
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    Wiki Model S Delivery Update

    My new MS LR just arrived today. Ordered it in early February just a few days after the ordering opened. I received a text this morning that I could pick it up at the Vallejo CA center on Monday (I live in the SF East Bay), but then they called an hour later and said it would be delivered to my...
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    Model S Refresh Delivery Dates

    My new MS LR just arrived today. Ordered it in early February just a few days after the ordering opened. I recieved a text this morning that I could pick it up at the Vallejo CA center on Monday (I live in the SF East Bay), but then they called an hour later and said it would be delivered to...
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    Model S Refresh Delivery Dates

    My delivery date has also disappeared. I have a buyer for my 2013 MS and they are in no hurry. So I am fine with transportation. I think I am pretty early on the order list RN1144... ordered in early February. Went through different dates so far. When we ordered our Model S (we are below...
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    Model S Refresh Delivery Dates

    Just checked on my Model S LR. Ordered at the beginning of February. First March delivery, then July, then June1-30, and just checked now, and it is August. Fortunately my 2013 Model S works fine. But I'm getting old and FSD is going to be my main mode of transportation. For comparison...
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    Speculation on the reason for the refresh delay

    I just checked my account at the Tesla Motors site for the first time in a few weeks. My delivery of my Model S LR (ordered on Feb 4) which was moved to July delivery back in March, now says June 1 to June 30. I am in the SF Bay area.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    We'll know for sure when Gordon Johnson become a TSLA bull:p
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You can give $15K and your spouse (or any friends you have) can also give $15K - per year to any person. Your spouse or you can also allow each other to use their $15k allowance for a combined gift. It can be cash, stock, mutual fund, etc. but the market value at the time of the gift...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    For 529 plans (which grow tax free until withdrawn, normally for educational costs - tuition, etc.) you have to go through a plan authorized by a state (doesn't have to be your state, although some states give further tax credits, etc.) States approve the funds that you can invest in, typically...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    And if your kids have children (your grandchildren) each of them can get $30K ($15K from each of you). You can give them TSLA shares, but note that their cost basis will be your cost basis. Only after your death is the cost basis stepped up to the price at your death.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    $ 1 Year $ 12 1 $ 145 2 $ 1,742 3 $ 20,959 4 $ 252,184 5 $ 3,034,315 6 $...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I actually have seen dealers keep lowering the price as the car gets older and older on the lot. I understand they finance the cars, so they are losing money every month that goes by, hence lowering the price to get rid of it.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Sometimes it takes a year or two on the dealer's lot. :(
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    Tax discussion, strategies and questions

    For me, tax planning is more complicated than the examples above, particularly, if you are planning to hold TSLA for the very long term. There were three big changes in the 2017 tax law that had major potential effects. First was the major change in the deductibility of state tax again the...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I was actually dividing the gain into two parts. One was from purchase to November 2019, and the second was from November 2019 to now. My mistake was the length of time from purchase to November 2019, really 6 years and 4.8 years. So my gain from purchase to November 2019 was something like 17%...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    For me, the past seven years has been a tale of two cities. I bought my TSLA shares in two large purchases in late 2013 (at 26 postsplit) and early 2015 (at 38 postsplit). I just calculated through this time last year, that my compounded annual return for the two purchases were 14% and 10%...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    If you have enough stock, you can do what Elon probably does to get cash. Borrow money from a bank, using your TSLA stock as collateral. I am guessing you will get a decent interest rate if you borrow a relatively small fraction of the worth of the stock. Very low risk loan for a bank...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Very wise move. They will thank you in a decade! I did a similar thing, going all in to TSLA with my Roth IRA (converted in 2012 and holding a career's worth of 403b, 457 and IRA contributions) in late 2013 with half and 2015 with the other half. I didn't need it for retirement, so did it...
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    Warranty Adjustment Program – Touchscreen Component email - Wow - watch for it

    My Model S from 2013 has been turning the screen on and off every few minutes when driving. I have about 60K miles and the warranty is good until February. I got the notice. However, I called my local Tesla Service Center (Berkeley CA) and all I got was a message to use the app to make an...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Two thoughts - one conservative and one more radical. 1. Rule of 72 means that over 5 years a stock will double if the compounded growth is 14% a year. That means TSLA SP at $4400 in 2025. Two doublings (to $8800) in 6 years is compounded growth of 24% a year. I think either case is...