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STILL Lots wrong with this chart: F150L cargo volume would include another 51+ cu ft in the 2nd row of the cab. F150L cargo locations also include 2 glove boxes, on-dash-tray, center console, sunglasses. F150L bed "width" is 60" at the tailgate, front, and above the wheel humps. F150L Driver...

Other places say to take the difference from 112744100 to find your apx distance from the front of the line.

Welcome to the world of driving energy-guzzling full sized trucks. 2.5 mi / kWh or 400 Wh/mi is the ballpark you can expect for a vehicle this size.

I think you proved my point when your simple search on the internet reveals that the knowledge necessary for bending stainless is readily available and well known.

Contracts are void if they are illegal. Certain types of contracts that restrain trade are illegal in the U.S. Of course, it will cost you a lawsuit to find out. Which is also illegal...

Since when is bending stainless steel any more difficult than any other steel or metal? Its not like its infinitely strong or anything. Its pretty much the same as any other high strength steel Sure, if its hardened, it can be brittle and crack if bent too sharply, but this is all well known...

Rumors are 123 kwh battery and < 300 mile range in the first release. But there is that mystery cover hanging under the back - could be covering an extended range battery option?

Yes, that is annoying also on the Ford.

Would have to look at one in detail again, but making it 6 inches shorter is not not helpful at all. With payload now reduced to being essentially the same as my Lightning, and eventually when Fords can fast-charge at Tesla stations, there is not going to be much reason for me to want the Tesla...

Since I started this thread 4 years ago, I have since purchased an F150 Lightning and have been driving it and using it for over a year. It has a conventional pickup bed. Pretty much as expected. Its only 5.5 feet long where my old Chevy had the medium 6' 8" bed. The difference is annoying...

Why are none of the Truck manufacturers just building the truck everyone wants? Same configurations as an F150 or Chevy 1500, but with an electric drive train with 350 mile range. Don't need no fancy electronics, touch screen, self driving, power retracting cover, crab mode, rock-crawling...

The thing is, that little diesel can put out 19 HP at the PTO sustained for hours. In deep snow, that power will be the limiting factor as to how fast you can clear it. 19 HP = ~14 KW. So yes, could make an electric motor that big, but its going to need to tap into the main battery system...

Plows need weight carrying capacity on the front axle. They also need a sturdy place on the truck to attach. Unless you baby it, the normal operation of the plow is repeated collisions with piles of snow that can easily outweigh the truck at speeds up to 20 MPH. With the occasional oops where...

Pickup trucks usage stats do not completely reflect how buyers think emotionally. True, most people use their pickups as daily drivers most of the time. But they do occasionally use the truck for hauling stuff or towing stuff. Or they think they might someday. And they want that capability...

Sure, to some extent, but nobody is likely to want to drive that conservatively. Heavy trailers are required to have brakes for good reason - they are needed and get used. Any situation where the trailer brakes are used is going to burn energy in the trailer brakes instead of regen. As a...

I agree with the above - (I did qualify with "to the extent trailer braking is used."). The loss of the regenerative braking will matter a lot more for urban and stop and go driving than it will when maintaining constant speed up and down gradual slopes at highway speeds. There are a few...

To absorb energy, you need the material to bend and be permanently deformed, not spring back. When it springs back, the energy is still gong to find its way into accelerating the vehicle violently with you inside of it. Super hard materials when you exceed their yield point are going to...

Unlike a conventional truck, the CT does not need a hump in the middle of the floor. Back seat floor is flat all the way across. Reports are that the headroom is good, but my experience with every other Tesla is that headroom is marginal, and given the slopped roof, I would be concerned if you...

You want to make sure it can run Blizzaks here in MN in the winter. Largest Light Truck Blizzak size i can find is LT275/65R20. 34" diam, So it would be nice if stock rims were not larger than 20". Those lower profile 275/60R20s are typically put on 9" or 9.5" wide rims. A LT265/70R18 on a...

Like the new Ford Bronco rubber floor with drain plugs: https://www.ford.com/suvs/bronco/2021/models/bronco-black-diamond/image/rubberized-flooring---washout-capable-with-drain-plugs/#rubberized-flooring---washout-capable-with-drain-plugs

No need if the T-slots in the bed are really a thing. Just slide a T-nut in the slot and bolt it down from the top.

I am building a 6 passenger time machine and we all plan to bring a lot of stuff back with us to 1985. Think the batteries could put out a short burst of just over 3 million amps @400v?

Conventional pickups from Ford and Chevy can be ordered in the "Work Truck" trim level with rubber floor instead of carpet. A rubber floor also typically comes standard in Police Interceptor versions of vehicles like the Ford Explorer. Unlikely that Tesla will get into that many combinations...

The 500 mile range seems to be one of the major selling points, so hopefully Tesla will notice that and make a cheaper 500 mile version. . I wouldn't hold out for that much cheaper of a price, however. They can charge a premium for the long range version. Its like they are just kind of...

Poly bed liners often have notches for dividing using 2x4's slide down. But that means carrying the requisite 2x4 around all the time. I put stuff in the front corner on the driver's side by reaching over the side. It generally stays there due to braking and the slight forward slope of the...

Its probably easier and maybe cheaper to just add another 4' of length to the garage. Depends which way the roof goes.

Its not that long. You won't need it. Just need to learn how to park a larger vehicle. Chevy or Ford (cannot remember which) offered an all-wheel steer option on their trucks a few years back. The only good use for it was backing trailers. I remember they had a commercial showing them...

OK idea for an Escalade-class SUV used to haul gussied-up celebrities. Bad idea for a truck that is ever used as a truck.

I am hoping the seats are thin jump-seat like construction that don't take a lot of volume. Some of the storage space underneath is already going to be taken by the roll top. Also you can see that the back wall of the cab protrudes inward behind the lower portion of the seats removing a...

Also, if you watch the whole video, at the end the reviewer talks about how unless you specifically need the functionality of the Avalanche, you are going to be better off saving your money and buying a regular, general purpose truck. I personally would be unlikely to use a mid-gate in a truck...

I doubt Tesla will be able to incorporate such a feature. The mid-gate concept would make the roll top very challenging. Even if you could design a roll top that could still operate independent of the gate, any cargo would still obstruct its operation. Maybe just give up on any rearward...

I still think this shows that the sides are sloped out. If the sides were vertical, then the triangle piece would be a rectangle and its front edge would be vertical, not angled.

As I mentioned on the other forum, living in a truck will not be fun. I suggest you get a small travel trailer or camper trailer. Where are you going to charge? Is electrical service available and connected already?

I think its cool. I just wish the cargo bed was more capable and less compromised.

Examining some more actual photos (and the renderings), I am suspecting the interior sides of the bed taper slightly outwards vertically as well. It may be a few inches wider at the top than at the floor. I wonder if this explains some of the variance in bed width dimensions that have been...

Note that there is subtle taper wider of the bed interior sides just near the tailgate. Its a nice refinement, but it may give a misleading impression of the thickness of the bed sides between the inner bed wall and the exterior of the truck. My point is that the CT claims a 6.5' bed, but its...

One of the reasons the F150 is the most popular vehicle in the U.S. is that its really like dozens of different models all under the same badge. F150's can have 3 different wheelbases, 3 different cab options, 3 or 4 different box sizes, 2 or 3 engine choices, 2wd or 4wd, times 3 or 4 trim...

Mirror polish all the exterior stainless. Then yell at all the kids who get fingerprints on it.

If you don't need a pressure washer to get it clean, you are not using your truck to its fullest.

I agree. Its probably not 10" wide. If it was, I would be seriously bummed at losing all that cargo volume. The flare around the wheel adds a couple of more inches, though. I was presuming the overall width being quoted at 79 inches wide (79.8 more precisely) was inclusive of the wheels...

Kind of the point - those covers all reduce the convenient usable space in the truck bed. That is why I choose not to put them on my truck. But on the CT, the cover and cab overhang is not optional. Its built in and not removable. In a pinch, on a conventional truck, you could remove the...

I only know one that I can source to Tesla - the 6.5' bed length. My conclusion that this length is measured at the floor of the bed is based on the overall length of the truck and the visual proportions of the bed. The 57" width was quoted from a motortrend article, but I have seen other...

There are hybrid skid-steer types of construction and off-road equipment than can do both skid-steer types of control and also have steerable wheels which can be used for conventional steering, or hybrid modes. And as mentioned, differential braking has been around for a long time on tractors...

Hopefully the stock tire size is something not too exotic. It should not be a pure off-road mudder as has been mentioned, nor should it be a "performance" tire. Hopefully the standard package is a reasonable all-season highway truck tire. Offer the all-terrain tires as an option. Ford...

Replacing a 2004 Chevy 2500 (light duty, not the HD) 4x4 4-door with 6.5' box. Used for: Household odds and ends, projects, and yard maint. Hauling parts and finished product for a small side business. Towing boats short and moderate distances to local bodies of water. Hauling fuel for...

Obviously they cannot magically make the wheels go away. The bed has to fit between the wheels, above the wheels, or have wheel well protrusions. In the case of the CT, the bed is between the wheels, but there is more room between the wheels because there is less need for sideways wheel...

Good News! After the revised calculations, it turns out you can put a 24" deep redneck hot tub in the back of the CT and still be under 3500 lbs. That's probably all the way up to the top of the tailgate. The real question would be if the roll top could handle the dynamic forces of the water...

The cargo bed of the CT is a bit cramped when compared to conventional 6'6" truck beds. It might be more accurate to think of the CT as a 6' bed truck that happens to have a little extra length at the bottom of the bed. As far as I can tell from the photos, the 78 inch length is only at the...

Don't get me wrong, I am all in favor of it really being 232 or shorter. I would personally prefer that they use the 6 extra inches to make the bed truly 78" long from the bottom all the way up the back wall of the cab instead of just at the bottom of the bed as shown in the prototype. They...

OK, I see now the 231.7 inch dimension in Tesla's original unveiling. Still, its tough to argue with what the minds eye sees in the photo.