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I received a voicemail today from someone at Tesla following up on my deferred order and asking if I wanted to take delivery now, as the next Model Y shipment to Hawaii won't be until December. Not sure if that was just an end-of-quarter push, or if it's true that they aren't expecting any more...

My initial trade in assessment on my 4Runner (right before the COVID shut down) was also towards the upper end of KBB's trade-in values. The re-assessment in June brought it down by about 12%, but that's when used car values as a whole had plummeted. Since then, the market seems to have evened out.

The VIN on the showroom car was 11XXX and was pretty close to the VIN I was assigned and gave back. If the one I was assigned was painted the same way as the one in the showroom, I would have been very disappointed. I’m glad I took it on a test drive. It’s a good car, but I’ll probably let my...

Sorry, hit “post” too quickly and then it timed out while editing. On the road, acceleration was excellent, as expected. One-pedal driving is great, and something I think I could easily get used to. I love the simplicity of the interior. Showing the side cameras when the reverse camera is...

While I was at Ala Moana, I stopped by the Tesla store to check out the Model Y Performance in the showroom. Out back, they had two LR AWDs, one with 19” wheels and one with 20” wheels. The one with Geminis was their demo vehicle and I took it on a short test drive. I thought seeing it in...

That’s an apartment complex off a private road, so probably not anything that will be usable by the general public, unfortunately. Doesn’t the Tesla website have a “coming soon” for Superchargers in Kailua?

I delayed delivery in June after receiving a VIN assignment (which was subsequently removed when I delayed). I did an “edit” to my February 2020 order and it now it reflects the July 2020 $3k price drop. I did not purchase FSD, so no impact there. I feel bad for those who took delivery a few...

They would be in the return period, so not ideal, but at least there's some leverage. Those that were just outside the return period (8 days+)...I feel bad for them. But I would also agree -- I don't think there's an obligation for Tesla to provide any compensation. It's just bad timing. To add...

My guess would be they’ve exhausted the pre-order backlog for LR AWD and Performance and the amount of new orders for those trims isn’t keeping up with the production numbers. Doesn’t this remove the price difference between the LR RWD and LR AWD? Maybe this is how they are addressing all those...

That’s not what my delivery advisor told me — even though I had an MVPA showing the higher trade amount, which I had accepted back in March, I was told the trade-in would be re-valued since over 30 days had passed. As my June delivery date grew closer, they dropped the trade-in offer by $2k and...

In my area, the Model 3 is becoming relatively ubiquitous to the point where it's not unusual to pass one on the road. But I can see how it can stick out in areas where they aren't as common on the road. To me, it's less about the "flashiness" and more of a stereotyped "superiority" image of...

In before someone else notes that it’s the OP’s first and only post so he or she must certainly be a troll or a short-seller. In all seriousness, I would be disappointed too. Whether this happens to other manufacturers (it does) and is not unique to Tesla (surprise, it happens to others too) is...

That’s the flaw in this discussion. We’re comparing the Model Y, which is in production now, to the Mach E, which is unavailable in production form. Anyone comparing the two in terms of delivery quality or anything outside of published specs is doing so based on pure speculation about the Mach...

Hopefully Ford has learned from its own disastrous launch of the Explorer/Aviator. On the plus side, it was widely acknowledged inside and outside of Ford and was front and center at their shareholder meeting, which is step one: admit you have a problem. $70K Aviator up for a top automotive...

I haven't received any texts from Tesla after notifying my delivery advisor that I was delaying my delivery. In fact, I didn't receive a reply that they received my request and had acted on it until I sent a follow-up email just to confirm.

What would help refute the claims would be some sort of counterpoint from Tesla with actual facts around Model Y delivery quality. For example, they could state that less than X% of Model Y deliveries are rejected or returned (or more than Y% are successfully delivered). Otherwise, we’re left...

No, just typical half-baked reporting. No one wants to pay for news, so you're seeing articles generated the cheapest way possible: finding something someone else wrote and repeating it practically verbatim. In this case, the starting point was Electrek, which was a story based on "forum posts."...

They reportedly stopped doing the license plate safety check bracket by default last spring or summer — cost cutting was what the Ala Moana store mentioned. Won’t help you since it already happened, but FYI for others: If you want them to stick the safety check on a bracket, you have to...

I agree — why take the risk (and responsibility) of trying to “fix” it with glue when it should be a warranty item. Plus, Tesla won’t know it is an issue (or if it’s larger issue) if you don’t tell them about it. It could be a fluke — just a bad part — or a larger design issue that can be...

The article itself was largely anecdotal and lacked any substantive argument other than “the forums are flooded.” There were a few actual testimonial examples, but nothing quantitative to back up the gist of the article that Tesla has a major quality problem with the Y. However, I think the...

I asked my delivery advisor the same question (for similar reasons) and was told I could delay up to six months. I'm considering canceling outright, as I've decided to go in a different direction, but may keep my order deferred/delayed as a "plan B" until my new "plan A" is definite, which...

Saw my first Model Y in person...while I was driving and making a turn so couldn’t get too distracted. White with Gemini wheels in Kailua. Also, after a few days of crickets, my delivery advisor responded back that I could delay delivery for up to six months. So that’s what I’ll do. As I...

The one my friend saw at the Kakaako SC was also in the VIN 6XXX range, so that must have been the batch for the first shipment to Hawaii. A service center rep said about 30 - 40 Model Ys were in the shipment. Last I checked, my 11XXX VIN was still in California and it looks like that's where...

Congratulations to those taking delivery! Can’t wait to see these on the street. A friend who took his Model 3 in for servicing at the Kakaako SC this morning said he saw a white LR AWD with 19” wheels in the customer delivery area, ready to go with temporary plates.

I'm leaning towards using the OEM mount as designed, stuck on my front bumper until the tape wears out.

I asked my delivery advisor if she could add the person who referred me and got me looking at a Tesla to begin with and was told no. Wasn’t expecting a positive answer, as, frankly, my advisor hasn’t really been that friendly or accommodating. I also get that adding the Y to the referral...

Actually, there were Model 3 owners who took delivery before December 31, 2019 who received 2020 model year VIN designations. Car Confections (on YouTube) mentioned they had the best-case scenario — a 2020 model year designation and delivery before December 31, 2019 so they were eligible for...

It's enough of an issue that Elon "...will be walking the line personally every week." It didn't sound like a "I'll be dropping by to high five everyone," more like "this has my full attention and it will get fixed." The fact that he called out a particular assembly line (GA4) may explain the...

I was actually referring to the interior door panels, not the plastic used on the exterior, which I agree help with the paint chipping (but I’m guessing was also added to make the Model Y appear more “SUV-like”).

Hence my “pessimistic” crystal ball. You can easily reduce “recitification needs” without improving quality if you put pressure on your delivery center managers to lower their reported rates of defects through aggressive objection-handling tactics. For example, incremental, money-out-the-door...

From electrek, an article about an internal memo Elon Musk sent to Tesla employees https://electrek.co/2020/06/08/elon-musk-tesla-model-y-production-ramp-up-problem-leaked-email/ From the memo (emphasis added by me): A couple ways this could shake out in my crystal ball: Optimistic: the...

Heh. I’m in the same 110XX range. I think waiting makes sense if you don’t really need the car right now. Somehow, I’m not too convinced that quality from the factory will get significantly better in the short-term, since there will always be a push to meet the quarter’s production goals...

Part of this seems to be a consequence of removing the distributors and/or independent dealerships from the equation. Removing them saves time and expense of having someone in the middle, but the value they were adding to the process (which, I agree, may vary and could be debatable in some...

Also add to the list: hard plastics on the lower portion of the doors. I can't find the thread where that was discussed, but if I remember correctly, older Model 3s had soft-touch surfaces on almost the entire door panel. At some point, they switched to soft-touch materials on just the top...

It may be a hassle, but you may want to check your state's lemon law and take steps towards utilizing it. Each state is different, but a problem they can't fix after repeated attempts seems like a good candidate.

Correct. As long as Tesla doesn't charge GET to the person buying the trade-in, they are compliant. I've seen pre-owned Teslas in Hawaii on their website, which I'm assuming are trade-ins; would be interesting to see if they quote GET on those. I'm guessing other dealers use method #2 because...

I've been trading emails with someone from the Hawaii Department of Tax. They were very quick to respond. They caveat their responses with a disclaimer that it is an informal opinion for discussion purposes, but here's their take on it: There are two acceptable methods for handling trade-ins...

I also have an inquiry into the Hawaii DoTax for a clear reading on this. As with anything tax related, it can be complicated. There may be more than one way to interpret and/or comply with the actual statute.

That’s initially what I saw too — but it looks like canned content from a single source given that many of the sites returned by Google use almost the same verbiage. The quote I referenced above is from the Hawaii Dept. of Tax instructions to businesses for completing their GET filings. I would...

You’re welcome. Glad to have helped — this could be pretty significant. Let us know what they say. I’ve reached out to my delivery advisor too, but she is based in Vegas and, in other discussions around the trade-in process, didn’t seem very familiar with how the process worked, let alone taxes.

When I googled it, I saw the same thing — and repeated multiple times almost verbatim, so it looks like it’s from the same source of SEO content used to make ad-generating websites. After a little more searching and fine-tuning of search words, I think I found what I was looking for. From the...

They didn’t automatically change my trade in value from March — and I debated just staying quiet and/or making the final payment and hoping they don’t catch it. But based on reading what happened to others, where trade-in values were adjusted right before delivery, I didn’t want to get surprised.

There’s been some recovery in used car and wholesale prices. Those who got low-ball offers in April and May may want to see if there’s an opportunity to reassess (of course, when I asked my delivery advisor, she said, “probably not.”). From Bloomberg:

That’s what I thought too. The MVPA I just received from Tesla doesn’t reflect that, however. I’ll ask Tesla, but really couldn’t find any clear documentation to back up a position that it should be net-of-trade.

Sorry — it always which way? GET on the full new car price or the net-of-trade price?

I reviewed my Tesla MVPA this evening after they reassessed my trade. I noticed that the GET is based on the full value of the Model Y. I could've sworn that this wasn't the case the last time I traded in when I picked up my 4Runner in 2015. Sure enough, I looked back at the purchase agreement...

Got my updated trade-in from Tesla today, after I requested it. Dropped by $2k for my 2015 4Runner (8% reduction). Checked it against KBB and it’s the low end of the “good” trade in value, which I think is where it was back in March for my original assessment. It’s not great, but better than I...

That straight line looks like a close encounter with something pointed that was sticking out, like a part of a chain link fence. Don’t ask me how I know.

Is there a way to open the rear hatch manually without the power assist kicking in? The last car I had with a power lift gate was a Toyota Venza and the power assist only kicked in if you used the button on the remote or dash. If you opened it via the release button on the hatch itself, the...

This worries me more than misaligned trim and paint defects. Hopefully, this is just a one-off unlucky experience versus poor quality that extends beyond just the cosmetic items that others have found.