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So I was watching the estimated destination/arrival SOC as we were charging at the last stop, and in fact they were going up one for one, i.e. 1% added to SOC was giving me 1% additional at destination. That's why I'm so stumped by the fact that I disconnected with 11% estimated at destination...

Yes, thank you, a lot of this makes sense. The first SC we stopped, it was a 150kW charger, was counting down in minutes 20-15-10-5-0. The others, all 250kW SCs, counted down in single minutes, at least when it was down to 10min or less, for sure. And yes, I wish the car's Navi would tell me the...

Thanks for the replies. Re Q1, just to clarify, as I was charging at the second stop, I was looking at my step-by-step navigation on the cars screen’s map, where at the bottom it was estimating my SOC at my next/final destination. That number was moving from a negative number (ie I wasn’t going...

Took our first long weekend trip this weekend, 435 miles each way, about 900 miles total. Everything was great and the whole range anxiety is overstated and unnecessary. Anyways two questions came up. 1. Driving back last night, the route had us making two stops, before planning to arrive...

Sorry, I'm slow today. Was there some sticker on the car at delivery, i.e. a sticker that gets removed? Am I understanding correct? Because if that's the case it was already removed by the time we got the car. Or is it a sticker under the "hood" or something (not that I recall seeing one there)...

How do you know manufactured date?

Same here, first update since getting the car 15 days ago.

If someone figures out how to either download or pdf-print the manuals, please let the rest of us know.

Got a text and an email tonight to schedule appointment to pick up the car. EDD has been 5/17-22 since shortly before getting the VIN assigned Friday night. Anyways 5/18-19-20 were available, picked the 18th. I had called our local store on Saturday to ask a question about registration and...

And just like that, a few hours later, just got my text that I VINed.

Oooh, mine just change (and I mean I've been checking like every few hours) from 6/5-7/10/22 (which has been in effect since 4/29/22), to 5/18-5/27.

Mine also just changed just now from July 31 - Sept 11 to June 5 - July 10. Here's hoping.

Only happening because FSD. Incredible B***S**t!

FSD?

https://web.archive.org/web/20220404085155/https://www.tesla.com/support/home-charging

Tesla's website clearly advertised this as something that came with your vehicle: https://web.archive.org/web/20220404085155/https://www.tesla.com/support/home-charging

https://web.archive.org/web/20210417014917/https://shop.tesla.com/product/gen-2-mobile-connector-bundle It was $275 last year and it was $275 on 4/15 according to this.

This is incorrect, this product cost $275 all along, just use the way back time machine. Also it is still not available in stock as of this writing.

I resisted the urge to say this, but I am an attorney. I can parse the difference between "Options, features or hardware released or changed after you place your order..." with what the website advertised, a completely separate charging cable, as opposed to parts that are part of the car itself...

Do we actually know this for sure? This is the problem, terrible, terrible, communication from Musk and from Musk directly, whom it should never be coming from directly in the first place. If Tesla simply said, we are no longer providing the UMC with new car orders as of today -- that would...

FYI, I just called one of the Tesla phone numbers that was provided earlier in this thread I believe. Don't waste your time, the response was along the lines of: everything is on track with your order but we're having difficulty producing the cars as quickly as we want. Blah blah blah. I said...

Make that 3 of us. I'm also MSM only. Ordered 6/1 but didn't complete profile till 11/1. I'm in Philly.

F**king B**lS**t! 😡

Ordered 6/1/21, profile complete 11/1/21, MYLR/midnight silver/black interior/no other upgrades. Date keeps getting pushed out, this morning pushed again to July31-Sept11. Is this real?

@Rocky_H - Yep, that's the plan, i.e. to run #2Al to the garage. Broke the news to my electrician, he didn't seem "too upset" by it, whereas he was arguing with me about something else related to #6Cu. But we didn't talk at length. Anyways, going to make him do this. And at this point thinking...

Oh, I'm known for overcomplicating things...just ask my wife :) j/k. Anyways, I think I got I understand. You helped me with some of this a few weeks back, but I think the new plan is to run #2Al wire, which I believe is rated for 90A, which I guess gives me 72A of continuous draw. Will likely...

Thanks @Rocky_H How about my late-addition question: Regarding the 125% rule applying to continuous power supplies, which of these is correct, is it (48+48)x1.25 or is it (60+60)x1.25?

Ok, I guess that makes sense. I didn't think of it, but I guess one doesn't have to enable power sharing between 2 Gen 3 HPWC. That said, my question remains, with a 120A feeder (this is theoretical) to a sub-panel with two 60A breakers, AND power sharing turned on, the two HPWC will still be...

@Rocky_H: I trust your write ups on this, can you help me quickly check my math..? In a situation where one installs 2 Gen 3 HPWC, each HPWC can max out at 48A correct? So in order for them both to, theoretically, be able to use all 48A at the same time, one would need 96A useable, which...

Yep, thank you for clarifying (I'm clear on this, now, but I'm sure in a week or two someone will read this and will go...glad I came across this, bc I really wasn't clear). Which is true of me, say a month ago or so go, when I was still trying to figure out all the nomenclature. But no, I will...

Copper, not NMB

Going to run 6awg. I'd love to run a bigger wire, but the house is on a 200A main panel, with a 100A sub panel -- which is the one we're going to put the breaker on. At least two electricians that stopped by (and I know and trust the last one, that will actually do the work) said that you can't...

Not planning to put in a sub-panel at the moment. My understanding was that if I wanted to do two HPWC, later down the line, current gen3 of the HPWCs require a sub-panel, where as gen2 HPWC required just a junction box/Polaris connectors. There are a few reasons I'm not putting a HPWC in now...

I am only running wire to install outlet for now, and possibly switch to one or two HPWC in the future. I have plenty of other 110v outlets in the garage, I do not need additional 110v outlets there, that is not why I'm running the wire; again only doing it for the upcoming Tesla. I require 120...

Thanks re the outlet selection. Regarding the wire, it's just a matter of not overpaying. Seems like online, at least at that one link provided, is cheapest (as always), Home Depot is a bit more expensive (assuming they actually have stock), but my electrician mentioned preferring Lowes which...

@Rocky_H Since you're talking about 14-50 outlets, I figured I'll ask. As you know from some other comments we exchanged, I'm likely putting in a 6-50. I asked for recommended 6-50 outlets, and so far, actually just above, was recommended a Hubbell part number HBL9367. Is that a decent outlet...

Ok, hey yeah thanks for the clarification. No I would not want a 120V load out of that sub-panel, I've got plenty of other outlets in the garage, and am only running this wire/doing the install solely for EV/Tesla charger(s). Now when you say "(OR GFCI)" are you talking about a GFCI outlet in...

Great thanks. I’ll check with my electrician. He’s got a million years in the industry and has done a ton of Tesla installs, including half the people I know. He knew that I didn’t need a neutral if going with a HPWC, but wasn’t sure about whether it would be needed for a UMC—I told him, this I...

@Rocky_H Getting closer to moving forward with the charger install. I just re-read this thread and it seems like you answered the question, but I want to double/triple-check. QUESTION: If I run only 2 hot wires and a ground, so no neutral, would I be able to in the future convert the 6-50...

Huh?! So I am aware of the need for a subpanel for two HPWCs. BUT, this is the first time I've heard that I would need a neutral wire for the sub-panel. Are you sure that is the case? Can anyone confirm that as true or not? Yeah, I've been going back and forth on 6-50 vs an HPWC specifically...

Thank you. The plan is indeed to install a 6-50 outlet for a UMC for now, but with a thought of possibly upgrading to one or more, likely two, Wall Chargers in the future. This is why I want the full 60 amps for if/when one or two Wall Chargers are going to be drawing (the I believe) 48 amps...

Thanks for the link. Yes, I know I'll need two conductors plus the ground. Have a link for the appropriate ground wire? NM-B is Romex right, I don't want Romex because 6 gauge isn't technically rated for 60A. So I assumed for this reason I wanted THHN cable. That said, I am rather ignorant as to...

Not to highjack the thread, but this is on point. I'm having an electrician run the wire from basement (inside the ceiling most of the way) to the garage, where it's going to go on the interior wall to get to the 6-50 outlet. I know the electrician, he knows what he's doing, but still I have two...

Thanks, before I make an ass out of myself by asking the electricians, at least electrician #1 is proposing to do almost the entire run outside of the house, with numerous 90 degree angles to navigate; is aluminum (and what I imagine is a thicker #1 aluminum vs #6 Cu) suitable for that?

Yes understood, and I plan to ask electrician #1 (that stopped by yesterday) if we can run Aluminum instead of coper on a 100A breaker. Will ask the same from electrician #2 that's yet to come by. What's the approximate cost difference between a foot of say #6 copper vs. #1 aluminum?

Can you explain? 99% of the run of the wires will be from the main panel in the basement to the outlet/WC or sub panel in the garage. If one or multiple WC are going to be installed there in the garage, they're probably going to be within inches of the sub panel. So where's the savings from...

Got it. And yes, when I was finishing my last post, I realized that I mentioned 14-50 at the top, and I understand that it is absolutely incorrect to install a 14-50 on a 2wire+1ground line as it's missing the fourth wire, i.e. the neutral. I got it. As for your explanation about the my very...

Yep, what @Budshark said. It's amazing how Dems keep screwing themselves, just amazing!

@Rocky_H, and everyone else: Thank you again! Honestly, it is so nice, and as of late somewhat refreshing, to be able get helpful info and advice online. As I said, I'm still hiring an electrician to do this, even though a family member has his own construction business, and my hands aren't...

Thank you again. Ok, so I've learned some very interesting things. 1. It sounds like I effectively need to run a neutral wire in order to future-proof, as installing multiple Gen3 wall connectors appear to require a sub-panel with separate circuits for each wall connector. This sucks btw...