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That's the boat I'm in. And I don't even have the EAP features they killed due to no USS. As soon as newer MYs come out with the features I don't have, but was promised, my lawyer will be writing to them. Ideally, but unlikely. Doesn't stop me from filling for it though. Let the judge decide...

Which is why Tesla will incur a liability of some sort in courts and arbitration. Not being able to retrofit just cost them in refunds and maybe that's a calculation they're willing to take.

Well, 4 corners, 4 low sides, 2 windshield, and 1 interior is 11. Hardly copying anyone when that's just the practical choice for best detecting cross traffic and low things when parking.

What is the port type?

It was dependent on FSD (the software) achieving it. So if they achieve it with HW4, but not HW3, they'll prove HW4 is all that's needed with their latest FSD software, validating the claims of all class actions demanding retrofit or upgrades. Yep.

Yes, in a world where the largest company market caps are $2 trillion, I'm sure basically zero is trillions. Wait for them to fail to deliver first though. Not imminent, but inevitable. It's a good thing we paid them $9-$15k ahead of time! If they're smart, they realized the promises they...

Well in my case I got FSD for $9k. And I did specifically buy a Tesla because of its smarts, but was told it's coming (FSD, smart summon, parking assist, etc). I have no other reason to have overpaid on this car I bought outright. If a Model Y with actual FSD and those other smart features...

First of all, it's not optional anymore once I select it in my original order, and pay for it. Technically, buying a Tesla at all is optional, so your logic doesn't really fly. And as for the screenshot, exactly! If they never get there, fine, but if they get there and have proven feasibility...

I did not. I specifically paid for a car with FSD, which is why I made sure to put it on my original order, not tacked on after delivery. I also paid for 20" wheels and 7 seats in my original order, and got them. If they were backordered, that's fine. But if they fail to eventually deliver in...

As soon as FSD features I paid for are delivered in non-beta capacity to HW4 vehicles, and not to my car, I will request them from Tesla, or a free retrofit. If their response is not satisfactory, I will get my lawyer to send them a letter, followed by legal action. It's really that simple.

No chance would I settle for FSD portion plus interest. I paid for a car that can do FSD, much like someone paid for a car that can do all wheel drive. If you can't deliver, take back the car so I can get one that actually delivers what is advertised. When the time comes, ether max damages...

Simply, yes. If new Lamborghini prices were reduced by 30%, they would absolute be considered less premium. If they sold Lambo's at cost, the brand would be damaged and many existing owners would abandon.

I'm not there yet. I need a few more days, lol

I'd image the number of people who bought FSD and Acceleration Boost on their overpriced 2022 cars is small enough that free SC miles can be given to those people. Tesla had no problem handing out SC miles to people buying at second-half of December prices, so now we're talking about an even...

I doubt the majority of last year's buyers traded in Teslas. Heck, I didn't even trade in anything

I initially said just Q3 and Q4 buyers, but given that the things Tesla can offer don't even cost Tesla anything, it's hardly reasonable. That cars already can do the acceleration and they already have the cpu and cameras. Flipping a few booleans server side for people who experienced 1 to 3...

When buying things like vehicles, jewelry, artwork, and real estate, it would be silly to ignore the resale value of the thing if you know you're not going to keep it forever. For many people, one of the deciding factors is its inevitable reale/trade-in value. For a Tesla now, unless it's being...

It's not that bad for some. I have a charger at home, and the 401 (Toronto to Montreal) has some Petro-Canada 350kW chargers along the way, and more to come, especially in the next few years, and there are various 150-250 kW CCS chargers around already. Except most of the time we have customer...

It changes for me, since I can see the trend and maybe trade in earlier, especially if the next batch get back USS or some radar, while mine does not. Not to mention we don't even know if they are ddone cutting. They did this in one day, what's to say they won't cut abruptly again in a few more...

Yes, anyone who bought at a higher base price, in the last year, should be compensated with something that "on paper" is worth up to ~30% of the difference. It doesn't cost Tesla anywhere near the sticker price to give someone EAP, FSD, AccelBoost, SC miles, etc. So "$4k" in compensation to...

I took deliver knowing it would be a short period before they restore those features with Tesla Vision. Their words, not mine. Absolutely true. And my experience and their after sales behavior directly affects my decision for where I'll purchase my wife's EV next year, and my replacement in 4-...

Imagine, I didn't even get the $3,750 off, got no USS, no matrix lights, no mud flaps while in Canada, no improved cameras, and put in my order March to receive it in December, and they pushed me to take delivery ASAP with many phone calls, and I was in the position to wait until end of January...

And not buying another Tesla after _feeling_ like you got screwed, is how customer behavior works.

It's not that hard. The price hikes were also abrupt, albeit smaller. Also, the existence of USS on the car is binary. You can't deny the people who bought at the highest price level and don't have USS are not only r easily identifiable, but also the worst off. If you bought at any of the Q3 and...

Throw bones to loyal customers that bought a Tesla despite its high price, and didn't hold out on them until the government made it easier. In my case, give me the Acceleration Boost for free, would be a minimum, since it's just software. Throw a year of free premium connectivity my way. Heck...

Yes, this is exactly what I'm saying. Tesla, without throwing any bones to recent 2022 buyers, is effectively broadcasting to us that they don't care about how we feel, or the financial loss we've taken when it comes to a product that is universally understood that the better it holds its value...

Yes. Let's be real, they slashed prices specifically to come under the thresholds for the rebates. Had it been for any other primary reason, they would have dropped them in tiers and over time, just as they did when they increased them. They knew they were going to do this, and sold now...

Sweat shops aren't bad business moves either of you ignore the optics and prioritize new customers.

No, the lesson to be learned here is that, with a product that is is well understood in society to be possible to depreciate and resell in 1 or more years to upgrade, that Teslas are too risky in that regard. When some of us who got burned are ready to get new vehicles, we'll remember this play...

Silly comparison. We're taking about a very large purchase you make once ever 3-5 years, maybe more. And a price cut that is rather unprecedented in the auto industry for both its steepness and abruptness. Tesla gets the benefits of direct and online sales without having to provide any of the...

A wise man once said: "Screw me once, shame on... Shame on me... Screw... A screwed can't get screwed again." Also, with every day that passes where I don't get the features I missed out on due to no USS, is a day that further justifies this as my last Tesla. At least make due on the evidently...

Before I finally agreed to take delivery in December, instead of cancelling my order, Tesla had just enough goodwill for me to overlook Musk's antics. That goodwill is gone now.

I was just giving an example of something I have access to when buying other expensive products from companies that sell direct and online. And fun the record, I'd gladly pay 1-3% more to cover the credit card merchant fees, if I get access to the protections that would have helped me in this...

I get it. I guess I'm used to buying things online using my credit card, and taking advantage of consumer protection laws, customer-friendly retailer policies, and credit card protections. My takeaway an as a new Tesla owner is that Tesla wants all of the perks of selling direct and online...

Really though, the US government bears some of the blame in how they design tax credits. Instead of progressively (i.e. $1 credit for every $5 below $75k, up to $7500 in credits), it's this binary cutoff that results in abrupt price changes/levels.

I'm not pissed, I'm disappointed in Tesla's seemingly arbitrary pricing. The car I received 30 days ago costs basically the same to build as the car that is being delivered tomorrow, despite the $13k less tomorrow's owner is paying, FSD included. We're taking about MSRPs, not dressing up that...

I already bought FSD, at $10k CAD, not the current $20k CAD. I'm going to see if I can get the acceleration boost for free, maybe extended warranty and/or free supercharger kms. I don't have high hopes though.

As a Canadian who took delivery early December, this sucks. This sucks hard. I still love the car, but if Tesla doesn't throw me/us a bone, this is my first and last Tesla. This is an indirect slap in the face for helping them achieve a great Q42024. By the time I'm ready for a new car, the...

PF612 MYLR 7 seater, no matrix, no USS, took delivery December 8th, all black interior

It's the idea that the current FSD beta is less than 2022.44.25.5, and so the non beta takes precedence, and a higher FSD beta in the future would override it in my pushed update? Aside from paying the full price for it with my car order, I clicked "Request Full Self Driving Beta" on the...

I have a 2023 MYLR that I took delivery of December 8th, and it shipped with v11.0 (2022.40.200). I enrolled for the FSD beta the day I got the car, and I've maintained a 90 safety rating over 260 km (although I'm not sure if any of this matters anymore, or if it needs to be over a thousand...

Welp, guess I'm making a service call...

I have a Galaxy s22 Ultra and a brand new 2023 MYLR and with or without a case, normal or upside, on the left or right side, the wireless charging does not work, ever.

I think there's a misunderstanding in what I am saying. I am not suggesting new USS are coming, or that we could get the old bumpers retrofitted on newer models. I am saying that Tesla is assuming that they can reproduce these "coming back soon" features in software with the existing cameras...

No front bumper camera on a car that has 8 cameras.

That's unfortunate. I was under the impression that since their disclaimer, which references this article, states that Park Assist, Autopark, Summon, and Smart Summon are "coming soon" to USS-less models, they'd be at least bound to delivering those features "for free" at some reasonable point...

As a soon-to-be USS-less Model Y owner, what are the chances that, assuming Tesla ends up revising future Model Y's with new USS to solve the "front-bumper-blind-spot-while-parking" issue, that my Y can be retrofitted for free at a service center?