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Cameras got upgraded on Wednesday. FSD update arrived day later. It’s raining so can’t really test.

This seems like a pretty smart way to handle it actually.

Mine was end July 2017. Got it in August. Last of the 2.0s…

I had EAP and the navigate feature was very valuable when driving across country. The $6k I paid, two weeks ago, up get FSD adds…speed limit sign reading.

MCU2 was worth it for me. Everything is just faster. Voice recognition when calling, navigation, the maps, TuneIn, streaming, etc. And unlike FSD, I actually got something tangible.

I agree. Even a one time transfer would satisfy most people. I’m in the same boat. 5 years is how long I usually keep a car at most. I was planning to replace this car with the new Roadster. But at present, I can’t imagine doing that unless Tesla does right by us.

Very true. It boils down to how much customer loyalty matters to them. Different industries have different metrics on how valuable it is to keep the “whales” happy. I suspect that value is >$0 as $0 is how much it would cost to give someone a FSD credit. The demographic that Tesla is kind...

It’s pretty baffling that they won’t transfer it, especially those who bought it 5 years ago and can’t even access the FSD beta.

We are not given the ability to upgrade the hardware. The camera upgrade is not currently available. There is no ETA on when it will. And there's no ETA on when even once you have the hardware installed that the FSD beta, the one we've been waiting FIVE YEARS for, will be available. We are...

Thats pretty disappointing. I find it pretty astonishing that they continue to allow people (like me) in late 2021 to pay thousands of dollars to “upgrade” to FSD knowing that the car is not physically capable of it. I paid and got the upgraded hardware last week. It involved being without...

As I mentioned above, I am in your VIN range and just upgraded in the past couple weeks. All through the phone app. They are happily taking the money and doing the upgrade. The main difference I've noticed from AP2 to AP3 is that it does read the speed limit signs.

Well for me, I paid $10k on the pitch we'd have it by the "end of the year" (2017). That was 4 years ago so that's basically a loan of $10k to Tesla Motors. Let's say 5% interest per year until we actually get the product purchased -- roughly $500 a year. So a fair "value" would be to give us...

After 4 years, I'm not sure how that balances. I doubt FSD on a 2017 vehicle makes much difference to its value.

I’ve been posting and RTing. I’ve got 50k followers. Not huge but hopefully helps a bit.

I have a July 2017 build (MCU1/AP2) that I upgraded to MCU2/AP3 this past week. I do NOT have the FSD beta (I wouldn't qualify anyway, 93 score). I was responding to whether Tesla was still allowing people with a 2017 car to upgrade to FSD and the answer is, yes. I literally paid the $5k up...

Yes. I upgraded literally a week ago. I didn't know about the camera thing, I only saw that people were reporting that the safety score and requests beta button was enabled. So for me, that is $5k for the FSD upgrade plus $1,500 for the infotainment upgrade. BTW, very very happy about the...

As much as I love Tesla and my three Teslas, I feel Elon's promises on FSD border on if not blow past false advertising. If Tesla wasn't taking tens of thousands of dollars from individual customers then his optimism is pretty forgivable. But again, they pocketed money from this.

Fundamentally, the issue is that there is no word whether the people who have July 2017 or earlier cars who bought FSD and even paid to upgrade to the latest infotainment tech and and have AP3 now will EVER be able to use FSD because the unupgradeable cameras are different than the newer cars...

I drive with my hands on the wheel and the torque necessary to satisfy the nag is significant. I frequently accidentally disengage autopilot.

I’m pretty disappointed in the new nag update. I drive with my hands in the wheel in the 5 and 8 position when AP is on and now it’s nagging every 20 seconds. I am not that light of a touch on the steering wheel, but on the highway, it wheel rarely turns (straight roads) so little opportunity...

I travel quite a bit in my Tesla and I often stay at places that don’t have fast charging and the nearest supercharger is an hour away. So I will plug in anywhere I can to slowly restore my range.

Still on 0.44. I’m hoping .46 starts showing cars in other lanes all the time like ap1does. I’ve been pretty unhappy w ap2...until around .38. At .44 I really cant tell much difference between it and my ap1 car other than the way it displays cars in the screen. And I wouldn’t be surprised if...

This is the first version of ap that successfully makes it through a very steep off ramp I take every day. Even ap1 fails on it. Now, if they’d just get car ID in and cars in other lanes and I’d be totally happy.

Sure. Not everyone is blasé about eating tens of thousands dollars in depreciation caused by being lied to.

The problem Tesla faces is that it’s ap is a moving target. I just finished a road trip from Michigan to Maryland and then back. I was using .32 on the way there and it was not great. Quite a bit worse than my AP1 MX I have at home. It drove probably around 50% of the time. I got .38 on the...

Have had some time with .38. It’s substantially better tha. 28 was and noticeably better tha. 32. If it showed cars in other lanes, read the speed limit signs and identified trucks vs. cars vs. motorcycles on screen I would have a hard time distinguishing this from AP1 most of the time.

I’m still on .32. Looking forward to getting this.

There’s been a lot of discussion and speculation on the progress of Tesla Autoplot 2. As of August 2017, it still lags far behind Autopilot 1. However, it has been making steady, albeit. Frustratingly slow, progress. So where do you think it will be by end of 2017? How about end of next year...

The AP was what made me pull the trigger on the Model X. But there were other prerequisites as well such as the Super Charger network. When the model S came out, not having even TACC was a show stopper for me. It’s a cost benefit ratio. Electric isn’t enough on its own, especially at the...

Upgraded from 17.32.6 to .17 today. Could be placebo effect but autosteer did seem noticeably smoother.

I consider the FSD debate a distraction to the main issue which is Tesla was very clear that enhanced auto pilot would go out in December 2016. I’m genuinely surprised at how poor auto pilot 2 at this point which makes me fear that the issue has more to do with patents than code. I suspect...

There is no way someone could honestly say ap2 is better. My ap1 car can identify trucks and motorcycles and show their icons, can show cars in other lanes, identifies speed limit signs, ha does curves well, is wonderful in stop and go traffic, recognizes far more roads as being activitable on...

The fact that AP2 is far, far behind AP1 this far after release is very telling. If I had traded in a AP1 car for an AP2 car I’d be outraged.

We have a 5 and a 6 seater. I prefer the 5 seater by far.

And I own both and drive both frequently. My opinion is not designed to invalidate your opinion. It is my opinion. The opinion of someone who owns two Model X's.

I have two Model X’s. One with ap1 and one with ap2. The ap2 o e isn’t remotely close to ap1 yet even with the aug2 update. Ap1 is a wonderful feature, great for heavy traffic, construction slowdowns, high way driving, stop and go, Ap2 is a gimmick right now. I wouldn’t trust it beyond a...

Can someone post their results?

Got my Model X 90D this past week. Originally ordered it in May. Had some minor fit and finish issues that they're sending up a Tesla Ranger to fix up. Loving the car so far. Best vehicle I've ever owned. A few things in no particular order: I wish there had been a 100D when I ordered...

Correction, on closer inspection the meter isn't in yet. No change from last week.

Meter is in. Not operational yet.