Anyone in the Knoxville area? Green is willing to test if FSD will work on 2.0 cars if your warranty is up or you’re willing to void it. Believe this test would require root access.
Just throwing it out there
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After 4 years, I'm not sure how that balances.That would be extremely unfair to everyone who was planning to sell their car and was expecting the FSD option to boost the value.
The fairest things would be to live up to their promises and if that is not possible then to admit it and offer a refund (in the form of TSLA shares, based on the value of TSLA at the time of the FSD purchase)
After 4 years, I'm not sure how that balances.
I doubt FSD on a 2017 vehicle makes much difference to its value.
Well for me, I paid $10k on the pitch we'd have it by the "end of the year" (2017). That was 4 years ago so that's basically a loan of $10k to Tesla Motors. Let's say 5% interest per year until we actually get the product purchased -- roughly $500 a year. So a fair "value" would be to give us $12,000 on top.We’ll see. Tesla CFO just confirmed on earnings call they will be valuing FSD at trade in. How much they value it at will be the question.
Just a few more days until we find out if were left in the cold. I have had a 100% safety score for 2 weeks not easy as you guys know lol. If this beta doesn't make its way I am going to level set on a YouTube video. Having only 1800 subscribers we will see where it goes. The newbie videos had no idea of the early days of autopilot or even that killer phantom breaking. Submitted so many damn bug reports since Oct 2016 helping them advance and this is how were treated so sad.
Can confirm it's pointless, I did just this.Probably pointless, but, if you have had a consistent 100 score on an original AP2 car (since before the first Friday roll out) try have a chat with Tesla support?
I have been stuck at 99 since the beginning so I can't ask why I don't have it yet, but if you have been a solid 100, give it a shot.
Come on, man! Unless you bought that car used I am shocked that anyone would hope that they can be further ripped off by Tesla. Pretty sure representations were made by Tesla in writing in 2016-17 that HW2.0 cars were guaranteed to have all of the hardware for FSD. After all they started selling FSD at that time (Fall 2016), so paying for hardware now would be outrageous. Obviously after FSD is finally delivered to us we might be left behind by HW4/FSD2 or whatever the next generations are called but we paid for FSD and five years later it has not been delivered.Can confirm it's pointless, I did just this.
My car is an August of 2017 build too. Hopefully we can at least pay for the upgraded cameras and still get it. I plan to keep this car a few more years
I am in the same boat, two Teslas and just under $250,000. The "we give you the credit at trade in" is lame, since the Tesla's trade in value is way below market, and we get nothing for our loyalty if the car is sold on the open market, or heaven forbid the car gets totaled. I paid for FSD December 31, 2016 and survived the early days/months of sketchy AP2. I wish I could have paid the subscription rate. I would be breaking even right now, if I started on day one, but I would have waited until now to enroll, saving lots of $$. There are people that enroll a few weeks ago, that now are driving FSD Beta-absurd!Well for me, I paid $10k on the pitch we'd have it by the "end of the year" (2017). That was 4 years ago so that's basically a loan of $10k to Tesla Motors. Let's say 5% interest per year until we actually get the product purchased -- roughly $500 a year. So a fair "value" would be to give us $12,000 on top.
But I'd be just as happy to transfer it to a new car which would cost them nothing.
Having spent $250k on Teslas, you'd think that people like me (And really the people in this thread) would be a pretty high priority to at least confirm that we will be getting access to the beta in in near future. I find it astonishing that Tesla isn't going all out to reassure this group. It may be small in number but we are the high margin buyers that most car companies want.
I am in the same boat, two Teslas and just under $250,000. The "we give you the credit at trade in" is a lame, since the Tesla's trade in value is way below market, and we get nothing for our loyalty if the car is sold on the open market, or heaven forbid the car gets totaled. I paid for FSD December 31, 2016 and survived the early days/months of sketchy AP2. I wish I could have paid the subscription rate. I would be breaking even right now, if I started on day one, but I would have waited until now to enroll, saving lots of $$. There are people that enroll a few weeks ago, that now are driving FSD Beta-absurd!
I guess someone within our VIN range who hasn’t purchased/subscribed to FSD can check their app to see if it’s available for purchase (without actually purchasing it).We would probably need someone with EAP or AP to actually try to purchase to find out. Doubt someone is going to risk $5-10k for an experiment
Yup and to add salt to the wound:I'm in this boat it appears. Had a 100/100 score since the beginning and continually getting passed up. Really sucks to be treated this way by Tesla after having waited 4 years.
Just wondering, did you get the same answer to just wait and it should only be a matter of time ?Can confirm it's pointless, I did just this.
My car is an August of 2017 build too. Hopefully we can at least pay for the upgraded cameras and still get it. I plan to keep this car a few more years
If Tesla wanted to do the roll out cautiously, I think it is just an incredibly bad move to give FSD beta to someone that has only experienced EAP for a couple of days.Who’s gonna tell him about the people who subscribed this Monday and had beta by Wednesday?
In all seriousness I agree with you. I hope this is resolved soon and this thread can die a swift death. The opportunity cost has been staggering for sure.
I totally agree with you valem! I have 91,000 miles on mine some folks just got the darn car LOL. You would think you would use your veterans for testing. I am talking to tesla through chat about this now. Everybody let's slam them with our concerns here Tesla SSO - Sign InIf Tesla wanted to do the roll out cautiously, I think it is just an incredibly bad move to give FSD beta to someone that has only experienced EAP for a couple of days.
Yep. Many of us have been using EAP et al for nearly five years and could all provide stories of unexpected events — and the need for rapid reaction. It does take practice.If Tesla wanted to do the roll out cautiously, I think it is just an incredibly bad move to give FSD beta to someone that has only experienced EAP for a couple of days.
4 sure I also sent a lengthy email to [email protected] not expecting anything from that.I think we will know for sure in 2 days if we are getting screwed or not.