TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker and becoming a Supporting Member. For more info: Support TMC

2020 MS Uploading data like crazy

Discussion in 'Model S' started by Idenphones, Jun 29, 2020.

  1. Idenphones

    Idenphones Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2020
    Messages:
    16
    Location:
    Pelham Ontario
    It is very common for me to see little bits and bytes of data being uploaded or downloaded almost constantly from my Model S to the mothership when I am connected to my home Wifi. .A couple of K here and there is quite normal.

    When there is a firmware upgrade or map upgrade being downloaded naturally the download is quite high, usually at about 7-10 meg per second.

    Today I noticed that the upload was hovering at about 5 meg per second for about an hour.

    Looks like Tesla knows all of my secrets and driving habits now.

    Does anyone know what Tesla is looking at?
     
  2. kdday

    kdday Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2016
    Messages:
    984
    Location:
    AZ
    Yes, they have what are called “snapshots” which are video segments collected by the autopilot computer for segments the computer is asked to find. So you had something the car was looking for happen, and it saved a snapshot and sent it up to the mothership for analysis.
     
    • Informative x 1
  3. zanary

    zanary Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2017
    Messages:
    1,201
    Location:
    San Francisco, CA
    You can disable this but then you lose some features of Autopilot I believe. Check out the permission section of your MCU screen. It’s there.
     
  4. kdday

    kdday Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2016
    Messages:
    984
    Location:
    AZ
    You can disable Data Sharing, and you do not lose any features or functionality. The snapshot uploads are only for Tesla’s internal teams to improve the NN and labeling architecture.

    You may be thinking this could inhibit the “Sentry” uploads that Tesla claims to be keeping in the cloud. I’m still unsure if that’s ever actually been proven as something customers can make use of in reality.
     
  5. zanary

    zanary Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2017
    Messages:
    1,201
    Location:
    San Francisco, CA
    Actually I a previous software update, I did disable it, and I got a warning that one of the feature of autopilot would no longer function. I don't remember what it was, but I'll try it again tomorrow... unless you have time tonight to see if it happens for you.
     
  6. kdday

    kdday Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2016
    Messages:
    984
    Location:
    AZ
    Just because I’m a curious creature, I just went and turned off both options for data sharing (and read the text on screen). Nothing about features being disabled
     
  7. Idenphones

    Idenphones Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2020
    Messages:
    16
    Location:
    Pelham Ontario
    AW-HA! The light just went on.

    The other day I was driving in our neighborhood and tried to turn on Autopilot but it would not engage.

    A few minutes later it worked just fine. WTF I said to myself.

    Looking at the road that I initially tried and the lines where not there. Nice wide road here in the boonies but no lines.

    Got to the main road and everything works.

    The only other error that I have seen is when my big foot hits the go pedal and the stop pedal at the same time.

    I tried to use autopilot multiple times so that error may very well be what they what to look at.

    Thanks for the help!
     
  8. zanary

    zanary Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2017
    Messages:
    1,201
    Location:
    San Francisco, CA
    Actually I just found it.

    On the Data sharing Page, you have two options. The top one won't disable any features or capabilities, but the bottom on disables the "Online Routine" for Navigation. If you turn the bottom one off, and then you go into Navigation settings, you'll notice that Online Routing is turned off automatically and if you try to turn it on, you get his message (see thumbnail below)
     

    Attached Files:

    • Like x 1

Share This Page

  • About Us

    Formed in 2006, Tesla Motors Club (TMC) was the first independent online Tesla community. Today it remains the largest and most dynamic community of Tesla enthusiasts. Learn more.
  • Do you value your experience at TMC? Consider becoming a Supporting Member of Tesla Motors Club. As a thank you for your contribution, you'll get nearly no ads in the Community and Groups sections. Additional perks are available depending on the level of contribution. Please visit the Account Upgrades page for more details.


    SUPPORT TMC