APH4!

[SR-71-BlackBird]

Updated to APH4.

model=ms&options=ADPX2%2CADX4%2CADX6%2CADX7%2CADX8%2CAF02%2CAPF0%2CAPH4%2CAPPA%2CAU01%2CBC0R%2CBP01%2CBR00%2CBS00%2CBTX6%2CCDM0%2CCF00%2CCH09%2CCW02%2CDCF0%2CDRLH%2CDSHG%2CDU01%2CDV4W%2CFG02%2CFMP6%2CFR04%2CHP00%2CIDCF%2CINWCB%2CIX00%2CLLP2%2CLP01%2CMDLS%2CME02%2CMI04%2CPBSB%2CPF01%2CPI01%2CPK00%2CPS01%2CPSPRX4%2CPSPX4%2CPX00%2CPX6D%2CQTWS%2CREEU%2CRFFR%2CSC04%2CSP01%2CSR07%2CST01%2CSU01%2CTIM3%2CTM00%2CTR00%2CUTSB%2CWTAS%2CWXW1%2CWXW2%2CWXW3%2CX001%2CX003%2CX007%2CX011%2CX014%2CX019%2CX024%2CX027%2CX028%2CX031%2CX037%2CX039%2CX043%2CYFCC

 

[MorrisonHiker]

I figured that's why they had the fire sale on FSD!

 

[boaterva]

In what? Your 3 on order?

I know it says S but what car is this?

 

[SR-71-BlackBird]

In what? Your 3 on order?

I know it says S but what car is this?

Model S ludicrous, change my order.

 

[MorrisonHiker]

Does anyone have an open X US order that shows the same new codes? It looks like there are a bunch of new changes besides APH4, mostly related to charging...so possible Supercharger v3 support? OP is in Europe and we've seen the codes on non-US pages for a while now.

Yesterday, we delayed our delivery one more day because we figured this was coming with the price increase.

 

[BigTonyTones]

Interesting. Thread Bump
You may have just discovered something big!

 

[MorrisonHiker]

Interesting. Thread Bump
You may have just discovered something big!

We've known about APH4 for European orders since early January but this is the first we've seen it in the order specs URL. OP mentioned changing his order so I assume it used to say APH3 previously and the URL recently changed to APH4.

 

[ytwytw]

Maybe just pre-load with new battery + AP HW3

 

[MorrisonHiker]

Maybe just pre-load with new battery + AP HW3

It still has the same BTX6 battery code for 100 kWh...but there are some additional codes in there related to charging (and wiring?). Guess we'll find out in the coming weeks!

 

[riba]

Ordered an X Friday last week, which will be confirmed tomorrow. I also see option code APH4. This one is also for Europe.

model=mx&options=AD15%2CAF02%2CAH00%2CAPBS%2CAPFB%2CAPH4%2CAU01%2CBC0R%2CBP01%2CBR00%2CBS00%2CBTX6%2CCC04%2CCDM0%2CCF00%2CCH09%2CCOSE%2CCW02%2CDRLH%2CDSHG%2CDU01%2CDV4W%2CFG02%2CFMP6%2CFR01%2CGLTL%2CHP00%2CIDCF%2CINBCB%2CIX00%2CLLP2%2CLP01%2CLT6P%2CMDLX%2CME02%2CMI03%2COSSB%2CPF01%2CPI01%2CPK00%2CPPSW%2CPX6D%2CQLBS%2CRCX0%2CREEU%2CRFPX%2CS07P%2CSC04%2CSP01%2CSR06%2CST01%2CSU01%2CTIM7%2CTM00%2CTR01%2CTRA1%2CTW01%2CUM01%2CUTSB%2CWT20%2CWXNN%2CWXNS%2CWXP2%2CWXW6%2CWXW7%2CX001%2CX003%2CX007%2CX011%2CX014%2CX021%2CX024%2CX026%2CX028%2CX031%2CX037%2CX039%2CX042%2CX043%2CYFCC

 

[hobbes]

Where exactly do you see this URL? Does it only work pre delivery? Got my Model 3 delivered two weeks ago in Germany and would like to check...

 

[MorrisonHiker]

Where exactly do you see this URL? Does it only work pre delivery? Got my Model 3 delivered two weeks ago in Germany and would like to check...

You can see it on the View Spec link before taking delivery.

 

[hobbes]

You can see it on the View Spec link before taking delivery.

Found out how to get the info post delivery: use the field vehicle_data/option_codes of the Tesla API: Data

Got "APH3" .

 

[MorrisonHiker]

We take delivery of an APH4 X on Monday.

 

[BigD0g]

We take delivery of an APH4 X on Monday.

Pm, let’s prove it’s actually APH4, very easy / fast to do

 

[Raechris]

We take delivery of an APH4 X on Monday.

What is your vin?

 

[MorrisonHiker]

What is your vin?

153xxx. Previously we were supposed to get 151415 but cancelled delivery on Wednesday when we saw APH4 showing up online. I think we saw one with APH4 that was 151540 or so.

 

[hobbes]

A bit off topic, but it seems to me that the option codes are not very reliable:

Updated to APH4.

model=ms&options=ADPX2%2CADX4%2CADX6%2CADX7%2CADX8%2CAF02%2CAPF0%2CAPH4%2CAPPA...

According to Option Codes, APPA would be "Autopilot 1.0 Hardware"... while APH4 points to HW3.

When I query my car using the API, I get

AD15,MDL3,PBSB,RENA,BT37,ID3W,RF3G,S3PB,DRLH,DV2W,W39B,
APF0,COUS,BC3B,CH07,PC30,FC3P,FG31,GLFR,HL31,HM31,IL31,
LTPB,MR31,FM3B,RS3H,SA3P,STCP,SC04,SU3C,T3CA,TW00,TM00,UT3P,
WR00,AU3P,APH3,AF00,ZCST,MI00,CDM0

So among some correct and some undocumented codes, my car would be a black US version with Rear Wheel drive, 19´´ wheels AP2.0 Base and "2015 Production Refresh" - while it is white, in Germany, AWD with 18´´Aeros, has EAP and was built in 2019 ... Seems to me many fields are not used/updated any more, many were added and their meaning is unknown.

Question for the experts (@BigD0g ?) - do these option codes come from the car itself when I query them or from some Tesla server? Seems like they are completely independent of what is actually installed?! In the sense that they could upgrade something and just forget to also update the option code?

(Point me to a better suited thread if you know one - thanks.)

 

[MorrisonHiker]

A bit off topic, but it seems to me that the option codes are not very reliable:



According to Option Codes, APPA would be "Autopilot 1.0 Hardware"... while APH4 points to HW3.

When I query my car using the API, I get

AD15,MDL3,PBSB,RENA,BT37,ID3W,RF3G,S3PB,DRLH,DV2W,W39B,
APF0,COUS,BC3B,CH07,PC30,FC3P,FG31,GLFR,HL31,HM31,IL31,
LTPB,MR31,FM3B,RS3H,SA3P,STCP,SC04,SU3C,T3CA,TW00,TM00,UT3P,
WR00,AU3P,APH3,AF00,ZCST,MI00,CDM0

So among some correct and some undocumented codes, my car would be a black US version with Rear Wheel drive, 19´´ wheels AP2.0 Base and "2015 Production Refresh" - while it is white, in Germany, AWD with 18´´Aeros, has EAP and was built in 2019 ... Seems to me many fields are not used/updated any more, many were added and their meaning is unknown.

Question for the experts (@BigD0g ?) - do these option codes come from the car itself when I query them or from some Tesla server? Seems like they are completely independent of what is actually installed?!

(Point me to a better suited thread if you know one - thanks.)

APPA isn't AP1 hardware. If you check on other sites, they think it is AP2 hardware. Basically, Tesla didn't provide a definition of what the option codes mean. Various sites try to determine their meaning. Some are pretty easy to figure out but others, such as the various Autopilot codes, are more difficult to determine. Some of the less obvious codes still have never been deciphered.

 

[HankLloydRight]

So among some correct and some undocumented codes, my car would be a black US version with Rear Wheel drive, 19´´ wheels AP2.0 Base and "2015 Production Refresh" - while it is white, in Germany, AWD with 18´´Aeros, has EAP and was built in 2019

These option code lists used currently mostly reflect codes for Model S and Model X, but not many for Model 3 yet. The "2015 Production" is one of the "MI" codes, which does not indicate model year, and also means different things for S,X and 3 (See: Model S refresh "MI04"). The option code tools are missing most Model 3 specific codes, so that's why you're seeing these significant differences/errors. They're trying to decode Model 3 codes with Model X/S references. Many of the codes you posted above have a "3" or "31" in them, meaning they are Model 3 codes, most of which are not yet listed on the github list.

What is a little odd is that your code list includes RENA, which is "Region-North America" for Model S and X. It's strange you have a car in Germany, which should be REEU--"Region Europe".

According to Option Codes, APPA would be "Autopilot 1.0 Hardware".

I am confident that APPA is AP Hardware 2, not HW1.