Can Tesla Execute on Model 3 in 2018?

[voip-ninja]

You should do more reading. AP2 is exceeding AP1 especially on cloverleaf off-ramps.

This is an off-topic discussion, however I haven't seen too many people claiming AP2 is at parity with AP1 let alone ahead of it.

 

[voip-ninja]

Here is the question have you got a configuration email yet?

What does that have to do with my opinion on whether or not Tesla can execute on their Model 3 production claims?

 

[vinnie97]

Brutal results so far, which I'm sure are clouded by the line waiters here experiencing repeated delays.

 

[slipnslider]

Given that Tesla wants to build cars similar to how software is built (rolling constant improvements), I suspect they didn’t roll the dice with soft tooling. They chose it explicitly. They are assuming that enough things will change (and they want that constant change) that investing in hard tooling at the outset doesn’t make sense.

They don’t see it as skipping steps. They see it as doing it better. Whether it’s really better or not remains to be seen but I applaud the willingness to try.

As for the OP’s poll... the better question is whether hitting 80% of projected matters or not. I doubt that metric matters. It will be rate of production improvement that matters.

The problem is cars are not software. There is no software update for cracking glass roofs, malfunctioning charge port doors, windows, squeaky seats, etc. It is extremely expensive to bring 200k cars back to the service center to fix manufacturing flaws. Tesla might have really screwed themselves by trying to cut corners.

 

[MXWing]

"Exceeding" is very relative and subjective in this case. It still can't read speed signs or display vehicles in other lanes. Sad!

It's in the software for internal testing for quite some time.

Optimism, late and never are three words one has to understand very well when discussing Tesla topics.

Elon was OPTIMISTIC about AP2 parity in Jan 2017
AP2 was LATE, needing March 2018 to arrive.

 

[ninefiveone]

The problem is cars are not software. There is no software update for cracking glass roofs, malfunctioning charge port doors, windows, squeaky seats, etc. It is extremely expensive to bring 200k cars back to the service center to fix manufacturing flaws. Tesla might have really screwed themselves by trying to cut corners.

You misunderstood my post.

 

[voip-ninja]

Brutal results so far, which I'm sure are clouded by the line waiters here experiencing repeated delays.

Brutal results, clouded by reality, which is that Tesla continues to fail on meeting their own timetables.