Consumer reports plug-in study

TEG · Mar 26, 2010

Study: 1 in 4 Consumers Considering a Plug-In Car | Autopia | Wired.com

dpeilow · Mar 26, 2010

Or spun another way...

Survey says: Only one-quarter of Americans would consider an electric car - Autoblog Green

Tdave · Mar 26, 2010

The fact that most consumers would only consider an EV if it cost no more than an ICE proves they have zero understanding of the gas savings and how it affects overall budget.

Alfred · Mar 27, 2010

Useless Surveys about inexistent products.

Market studies about products the consumer has whether seen nor experienced are highly speculative and are well known for their spurious conclusions. That money and energy would be better spent on product development. The marketing literature abounds with anecdotal evidence of this phenomenon.

vfx · Mar 27, 2010

Not to mention the toehold of disruptive technology.

Those Study results quickly become obsolete when the product is in the hands of evangelists who take the product across the chasm.

vfx · Mar 28, 2010

Another Study bt Accenture
Survey shows buyers have unrealistic expectations for hybrid and electric vehicles — Autoblog Green

vfx · Sep 29, 2010

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine-archive/2010/october/cars/electric-cars/overview/index.htm

vfx · Nov 2, 2010

Can we rename this thread "EV future and acceptance"?

vfx · Nov 2, 2010

J.D. Power says chances to really drive green in 2020 are "More Hope than Reality"
http://green.autoblog.com/2010/10/27/j-d-power-says-chances-to-really-drive-green-in-2020-are-more/

J.D. Power and Associates Reports: Future Global Market Demand for Hybrid and Battery Electric Vehicles May Be Over-Hyped; Wild Card is China

Regulatory Inconsistencies across Markets; Relatively Stable Oil Prices; and Consumer Concerns about Cost and Ease of Operation Present Challenges for Sales of Hybrid and Electric Vehicles

WESTLAKE VILLAGE, Calif.: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 - Combined global sales of hybrid electric vehicles (HEVs) and battery electric vehicles (BEVs) are expected to total 5.2 million units in 2020, or just 7.3 percent of the 70.9 million passenger vehicles forecasted to be sold worldwide by that year, according to a report issued by J.D. Power and Associates. For comparison, global HEV and BEV sales in 2010 are forecasted to total 954,500 vehicles, or 2.2 percent of the 44.7 million vehicles projected to be sold through the end of 2010.

The report, titled "Drive Green 2020: More Hope than Reality" considers various factors affecting the future potential for "green" vehicles in the world's largest automotive markets. These factors include market trends, regulatory environment, consumer sentiment and technology development in these markets.

According to the report, it will be difficult to convince large numbers of consumers to switch from conventionally powered passenger vehicles to HEVs and BEVs. A consumer migration to alternative powertrain technologies will most likely require either one of the following scenarios, or some combination of these scenarios:

* A significant increase in the global price of petroleum-based fuels by 2020
* A substantial breakthrough in green technologies that would reduce costs and improve consumer confidence
* A coordinated government policy to encourage consumers to purchase these vehicles.

Based on currently available information, none of these scenarios are believed to be likely during the next 10 years.

"While considerable interest exists among governments, media and environmentalists in promoting HEVs and BEVs, consumers will ultimately decide whether these vehicles are commercially successful or not," said John Humphrey, senior vice president of automotive operations at J.D. Power and Associates. "Based on our research of consumer attitudes toward these technologies-and barring significant changes to public policy, including tax incentives and higher fuel economy standards-we don't anticipate a mass migration to green vehicles in the coming decade."

Consumer Sentiment about HEVs and BEVs
Consumers have a variety of concerns about HEVs and BEVs, including:
* Dislike of their look/design
* Worries about the reliability of new technologies
* Dissatisfaction with overall power and performance
* Anxiety about driving range
* Concern about the time needed to recharge battery packs

More importantly, however, are the personal financial implications of deciding to purchase an alternative-energy vehicle. While many consumers around the world say they are interested in HEVs and BEVs for the expected fuel savings and positive environmental impact they provide, their interest declines significantly when they learn of the price premium that comes with purchasing these vehicles.

"Many consumers say they are concerned about the environment, but when they find out how much a green vehicle is going to cost, their altruistic inclination declines considerably," said Humphrey. "For example, among consumers in the U.S. who initially say they are interested in buying a hybrid vehicle, the number declines by some 50 percent when they learn of the extra $5,000, on average, it would cost to acquire the vehicle."

The overall cost of ownership of HEVs and BEVs over the life of the vehicle is also not entirely clear to consumers, and there is still much confusion about how long one would have to own such a vehicle to realize cost savings on fuel, compared with a vehicle powered by a conventional internal combustion engine (ICE). The resale value of HEVs and BEVs, as well as the cost of replacing depleted battery packs, are other financial considerations that weigh heavily on consumers' minds.

Finally, it is clear from research in the world's largest automotive markets that buyers of hybrid and electric vehicles occupy a unique demographic niche. Buyers of HEVs and BEVs are generally older, more highly educated (possessing a postgraduate degree), high-income individuals who have a deep interest in technology, or who like to be among the early adopters of any new technology product. As a result, it is not clear that HEVs and BEVs will appeal to the general population.

Government Regulations
While the governments of the world's largest automotive-producing nations have schedules in place for improving fuel economy and reducing exhaust emissions, there is little consensus about the timing or manner in which these objectives are to be achieved. Some governments are promoting HEVs, others are focusing on BEVs, and still others are considering additional options.

According to Humphrey, the lack of consistency in regulations across markets is causing global automakers to hedge their options by seeking alliances and technology-sharing agreements. The heavy fixed costs associated with developing multiple powertrain options simultaneously are prohibitively expensive. When combined with the projected lower sales volumes of these products, collaboration between auto companies is almost a necessity to control costs and remain competitive.

One unpredictable aspect of the 2020 outlook is how markets would be affected if more stringent and consistent legislation is adopted that supports specific technologies. In particular, China has the ability to move quickly, invest heavily in the development of one specific propulsion technology, and mandate fuel economy or emissions standards that could favor a particular technology or require a minimum sales penetration level for vehicles with a designated technology. Given the size and growth rate of the Chinese auto market, such a coordinated regulatory environment might allow Chinese companies to achieve economies of scale and drive down the cost of alternative-energy vehicles.

Technology
While HEVs and BEVs offer an interesting alternative for the future, it must be acknowledged that many of the shortcomings that defined battery-based vehicles 100 years ago are still prevalent today. These include limited driving range, extended recharging times, limited support infrastructure, and the high cost of battery packs.

Moreover, while reducing exhaust emissions was not an important factor in the development of battery-based vehicles 100 years ago, it has been a significant driver behind the development of BEVs today. For many governments, the primary goal of transitioning to alternative powertrains is to reduce exhaust emissions, and it is not clear how much of this can be achieved.

"We don't want to replace tailpipe emissions with the emissions of coal- and oil-fired power plants that produce the electricity used by BEVs," said Humphrey. "We have to look at the carbon footprint of the entire energy supply chain."

Breakdown of Global HEV and BEV Sales by 2020
Of the 5.2 million HEVs and BEVs forecasted to be sold worldwide in 2020, some 3.9 million units are expected to be HEVs, according to the J.D. Power and Associates global forecast numbers for the third-quarter of 2010. The leading markets for HEVs are the United States (1.7 million units), Europe (977,000 units), and Japan (875,000 units). China is expected to sell fewer than 100,000 HEVs in 2020.

Of the 1.3 million BEVs projected to be sold worldwide in 2020, sales in Europe will account for 742,000 units; sales in China will account for 332,000 units; and the United States and Japan should each account for sales of approximately 100,000 BEVs in 2020.
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vfx · Nov 2, 2010

Dr. Rich Terrile is an astronomer and the Director of the Center for Evolutionary Computation and Automated Design at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory. He uses techniques based on biological evolution and development to advance the fields of robotics and computer intelligence.

Terrile stated his goal was for everyone to leave his thirty minute talk with "at least three different things that you're going to want to write down and tell other people". His talk was the perfect start to the day as he truly lives and thinks in the future "... we are going to see, in a very, very short time, not in twenty years or fifty years or one hundred years, in the immediate future... very, very dramatic changes in what we do."

13 years From Fastest Computer in the World to Toy

"If you are doing business as usual, if you think the future is going to be like the past, from your experiences, you're dead wrong because as human beings we are incapable of really, truly understanding the impact of what is going to happen to us because of things like Moore's Law ( wikipedia )". Gordon Moore (Intel co-founder) observed in 1965 that computational power increases every 18 months.

Terrile said the cycle is actually every 13 months and showed a chart graphing that growth and then added Playstations to it to illustrate that even in "toys" Moore's law applies. "The Playstation 3 in 2006 was as powerful as the fastest computer in the world in 1993, if I had one of these things [Playstation 3] in 1993, people would murder me for it. This machine [1993 computer] cost over 50 million dollars, this machine [Playstation 3] cost me $500 and my six year old plays with it".

"It took thirteen years for the fastest computer in the world to become a toy. The fastest computer in the world today can compute faster than you can." He explained that it can be argued that Moore's law will not go on forever but it doesn't have to. "Our supercomputers today, the fastest computers in the world, compute faster than you can... so we're going to have artificial intelligence, machines that are conscious... we've already got the capability on our shelves to do that and that capability will be on your shelves sitting under your TV's in 10 years, or in your pockets".

Technology Adoption

Terrile charted how long certain inventions took to be adopted by 1/4 of the U.S. Population. It took 39 years for the telephone, 28 years for television, 16 years for mobile phones... Facebook took less than 2 years. "We're seeing this incredible decrease in the amount of time it takes for a paradigm to reach huge masses of people, this is where we can make the biggest mistakes in this industry...".

He explained that the people running the industry are used to things like DVD players taking a decade to reach major acceptance. If you are used to thinking in terms like that when you look at 3D TV you'd think it will take 15 years but he offers that people starting to work today are used to instant gratification.
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Jaff · Nov 2, 2010

Very interesting to see Gartner's hype cycle...looks very true for many new products & industries.

I would agree that the EV industry on the whole may be subject to Gartner's cycle...I don't think that it will apply to TM products in the near future though...jmo

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