Data from drivers when FSD is not engaged

[Hahne]

In its aggregation of the driving data from vehicles for training FSD, does Tesla incorporate data from drivers who do not have FSD or Autopilot engaged? This could provide valuable input for machine learning in particularly difficult driving situations.

I watched this video of a tester trying Beta 10 in a turn under Seattle monorail pillars:

. The beta tester tried the turn a few times, but each time he panicked and took control when it appeared that the car was heading toward a pillar. The driver has repeatedly driven this route manually. I expected the car to learn when the driver took took contro, so it would do better the next. But it appeared that the car made the same mistake each time.

Tesla would have to ask a user for permission to collect this data, but I am sure many drivers would be delighted to contribute to the cause to improve FSD.

 

[ThomasD]

How long until Tesla will accept 100% liability of the car's actions while in FSD?

 

[Padelford]

In its aggregation of the driving data from vehicles for training FSD, does Tesla incorporate data from drivers who do not have FSD or Autopilot engaged? This could provide valuable input for machine learning in particularly difficult driving situations.

I watched this video of a tester trying Beta 10 in a turn under Seattle monorail pillars:

. The beta tester tried the turn a few times, but each time he panicked and took control when it appeared that the car was heading toward a pillar. The driver has repeatedly driven this route manually. I expected the car to learn when the driver took took contro, so it would do better the next. But it appeared that the car made the same mistake each time.

Tesla would have to ask a user for permission to collect this data, but I am sure many drivers would be delighted to contribute to the cause to improve FSD.

Tesla doesn't have to ask permission for your driving data if you've enabled data sharing. Also, I'm certain that anyone participating in the FSD beta program is sharing data. I'm pretty certain that Tesla has been running shadow software on HW3 vehicles, testing software in the background and gathering data on driving situations vs how new software performs in the same situation.

The monorail pillars in downtown Seattle are a pretty extreme corner case for FSD.

 

[Padelford]

The vehicle drove around a parked trailer blocking the lane. That was cool.