caskater47
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Nobody is arguing that there exists a true competitor to Tesla in the EV market right now. But dismissing any comparison of Tesla to other markets and industries isnt helpful either. The EV industry isn't so special that it's beyond comparison. So the foundation of your argument isn't entirely logical.OK, so where are they? Show me one...just ONE electric vehicle that is being manufactured today at volume for the same price, with similar features, with a charging network, that is even in the same ballpark with the Model 3 in terms of sales? Look, I get what you're saying...sort of. However, Tesla is far, far from a crappy company. They are a fantastic company that is being run differently from the norm, no doubt. I just got an update to my car that is amazing. Do you think any other company would have thought to be able to do that the way they run things? No, they wouldn't. Would they have thought to look into alternate forms of propulsion the way they run their companies? No, not in any serious way. Tesla's impulsive nature is one of the things that has led them to where they are. Yes, it causes headaches from time to time, but we all knew what we were getting into.
Dan
We are also going to have to simply agree to disagree that Tesla is a good company, let alone fantastic. Let's agree that Tesla is a good innovator but a company is a lot more than the technology it creates. The measure of a great company is measured in how they treat their employees their customers, how they act as a corporate citizen to the country and rest of the world.
If you take those items into account Tesla leaves a lot to be desired. They build proprietary technology and refuse to allow third parties to access their tools and data to allow for third party or self repair and service of the cars. They refuse to engage in any current or evolving EV standards. They treat customers as unimportant and expendable at their best as evidenced by the many horror stories on TMC and beyond. They create mass panic among their employees such as in the whiplash of closing their stores, downsizing, upsizing their workforce. They create massive market instability with Musk’s SEC tweets, price adjustements and stock fluctuations. Musk likes to taunt and ridicule anyone he likes just as a bully does.
No Tesla isn't a fantastic company by any definition of the word but they do have great tech. Companies like Tesla tend to implode before long. I hope for all our sake that doesnt happen and instead they (and especially Musk) learn to grow up.