How do we know what HW version is in our 2023 Model Y and why doesn't it explicitly say it has EAP, which we bought?

[Dracaris]

We have a new 2023 Model Y built in 09/23 in Fremont. As we're looking at the software stack, currently 2023.27.7, and the commentary here we often see people refer to the computer in the vehicle as HW3, HW4, etc. Our car doesn't say anything about that. Instead, it just says "Autopilot computer: Full self-driving Computer." So, do we have HW3 or HW4? We definitely don't have radar, so at least that's understood.

Also on the software page in our car it says we have FSD capability which expires on Jan 13, 2024. It says nothing about EAP, which is what we bought. So, we're confused about why our car seems to be on what is referred to as the early release branch for FSD (2023.27.7 / 11.4.7.3) vs. what folks refer to as the main branch, with a higher 2023.x.y number than we have. We neither bought nor intend to buy FSD, but we did buy EAP for lane changes and navigate from entrance to exit. We would like to have gotten summon, autopark, etc., but found out after the sale that those features are dead...at least for now. (sigh). So what changes when our FSD access expires on 1/14/2024? Do we switch over to EAP, or does something else happen?

Thanks in advance for any insights folks here can share with us.

 

[Dracaris]

Thanks, I hadn't seen that option before. Too bad the car doesn't record them all. Well, except for the cabin camera, I could live without that one.

 

[gsmith123]

Agreed, it's a little disappointing that dash cam still can't record all cameras (even on HW4). I wonder if they have enough compute (and bandwidth and storage write speed etc) to add that in future. I can see why they wouldn't today because not all new cars are on HW4.

• So far, HW4 supposedly has no advantage (and even a disadvantage) according to Musk, because it’s too new and data collection is king for these automation functions.

Tesla won't tell you but HW4 already offers better dashcam footage quality. The backup camera is slightly wider angle (useful for seeing cross traffic) and has higher resolution and better low light performance.

True, it may have no advantage for Autopilot (and FSD) today. But it does have some advantages!

And knowing how technology works it's quite plausible that in 5 years HW4 cars do perform better on AP thanks to higher resolution cameras and wider angle lenses. For that last part, I believe it still remains to be proven just how much wider angle the fender cameras are. It might only be a little difference so potentially negligible.

Side note: is Model 3 not going to get HW4 until Highland comes out in north america? That's going to be, what, a full year behind when Model Y got HW4?

 

[MSJack]

We have a new 2023 Model Y built in 09/23 in Fremont. As we're looking at the software stack, currently 2023.27.7, and the commentary here we often see people refer to the computer in the vehicle as HW3, HW4, etc. Our car doesn't say anything about that. Instead, it just says "Autopilot computer: Full self-driving Computer." So, do we have HW3 or HW4? We definitely don't have radar, so at least that's understood.

Also on the software page in our car it says we have FSD capability which expires on Jan 13, 2024. It says nothing about EAP, which is what we bought. So, we're confused about why our car seems to be on what is referred to as the early release branch for FSD (2023.27.7 / 11.4.7.3) vs. what folks refer to as the main branch, with a higher 2023.x.y number than we have. We neither bought nor intend to buy FSD, but we did buy EAP for lane changes and navigate from entrance to exit. We would like to have gotten summon, autopark, etc., but found out after the sale that those features are dead...at least for now. (sigh). So what changes when our FSD access expires on 1/14/2024? Do we switch over to EAP, or does something else happen?

Thanks in advance for any insights folks here can share with us.

If you want EAP, Buy it from the "Upgrades" section through the app, Tesla is always changing stuff with their software so it's quite or less expected to see them remove features that were once available to purchase through packages like EAP, As FSD goes you get the same functionality of basic AP & EAP.