I have a stupid question, but why not gift?

[CCLJerry]

I contacted several private sellers and asked if they could gift when transferring title, and most of them say no.
I wonder if this is a pretty personal choice, or due to some other reasons?

I purchased several used car before from other former owners, like honda, somewhere between 1-20k and they all gifted it.
Is this because Honda's price too low, so they won't bother?

And more importantly, if private seller won't gift, then what's the point people want to purchase it from them?
I couldn't see any differences between purchasing from used inventory on Tesla.com and purchasing with private sellers? Besides, purchasing from official website seems like more secured if there's not any price advantages when purchasing with private sellers.

No offense, just try to figure this out.

Thank you

 

[Ostrichsak]

So your complaint is that people won't break the law when you ask them to?

 

[CCLJerry]

So your complaint is that people won't break the law when you ask them to?

Does gifting mean break the law?

 

[Saghost]

Does gifting mean break the law?

I'm not 100% certain what we're talking about, but it sounds like tax evasion to me.

 

[Ostrichsak]

Does gifting mean break the law?

If by "gifting" you mean getting them to lie about the fact that you PAID for a vehicle to avoid paying taxes then yes... gifting is a form of tax evasion & that type of fraudulent activity the gubment tends to frown upon.

 

[CCLJerry]

Ok, understood. Thank you guys.

 

[dhrivnak]

I contacted several private sellers and asked if they could gift when transferring title, and most of them say no.
I wonder if this is a pretty personal choice, or due to some other reasons?

I purchased several used car before from other former owners, like honda, somewhere between 1-20k and they all gifted it.
Is this because Honda's price too low, so they won't bother?

And more importantly, if private seller won't gift, then what's the point people want to purchase it from them?
I couldn't see any differences between purchasing from used inventory on Tesla.com and purchasing with private sellers? Besides, purchasing from official website seems like more secured if there's not any price advantages when purchasing with private sellers.

No offense, just try to figure this out.

Thank you

In Tennessee you can only gift to a direct family member and normally ID is shown.

 

[sixela]

Gifting is not a form of tax evasion unless you are misrepresenting a sale (with "consideration", i.e. someone gives you a car but you pay him) as a gift.

Misrepresentation always allows any aggrieved party to sue you for damages, and in many jurisdictions if the aggrieved party is the government is even criminal.

So yeah, I can see why they would not want to do that.

In Belgium it's worse than in most countries: here, misrepresentation in writing is in itself a crime, punishable by up to 5 (and technically 10) years.

 

[CCLJerry]

Gifting is not a form of tax evasion unless you are misrepresenting a sale (with "consideration", i.e. someone gives you a car but you pay him) as a gift.

Misrepresentation always allows any aggrieved party to sue you for damages, and in many jurisdictions if the aggrieved party is the government is even criminal.

So yeah, I can see why they would not want to do that.

In Belgium it's worse than in most countries: here, misrepresentation in writing is in itself a crime, punishable by up to 5 (and technically 10) years.

Thank you, sixela, very very helpful.

 

[Jonohio]

Tax fraud is probably the biggest deterrent.....