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gg_got_a_tesla
Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
Ah, serial numbers but not VINs. Not as useful for me.
Brian, the rest of the VINs can probably be deduced based on the perf/non-perf distinction but, they seem to follow the pattern of the last few production car VINs that we've seen:
Decoding Tesla Model S VINs
(probably best to continue the VIN discussion over on that thread)
That's the opposite of what I want...
I want real VINs to verify our current theories about the format, and so that we can observe changes and differences.
Norbert
TSLA will win
I think he didn't quite mention this aspect, though similar ones: The headroom on the rear seats us much higher towards the middle. Being a few inches above 6', I touch the ceiling (without sunroof) when holding my head close to the window, but when I move it a bit towards the middle, I have more than enough space.
WhiteKnight
_____ P85 #549 _____ Sig Red / Sig White
Can anyone help me interpret this quote :
Is he saying that 30 miles of flogging the car burned up (290-165=)125 miles of range?
Or is he saying that the computer is telling him that if he keeps flogging the car he's only going to get an additional 165 heavily flogged miles?
If the former is true then that seems a little scary that highly spirited driving can reduce range from 290 miles to under 75.
If that's the case maybe Top Gear was right? :crying:
30 + 165 = 195
Referring to "the chart"...
Model S Efficiency and Range | Blog | Tesla Motors
... that suggests they were averaging around 82mph, if going steady. But they were probably doing "punch it and release" cycles, to get a feel for the accel and decel behavior.
SByer
'08 #383
This. It's how the Roadster estimated range works, and is about as good an algorithm as any.
Norbert
TSLA will win
which would be assuming he started with a full pack before driving 30 miles. 195 / 265 = 74 %.
74 % for heavy-acceleration driving seems OK to me. After all, that is still much more than most need on a daily basis.
WhiteKnight
_____ P85 #549 _____ Sig Red / Sig White
Ok - thanks - good to know!
I don't think that is an onerous penalty for "hot rodding" in the car. In fact I was baking in a 30% reduction when I looked at how much range do I really need / WANT.
I don't think that is an onerous penalty for "hot rodding" in the car. In fact I was baking in a 30% reduction when I looked at how much range do I really need / WANT.
CapitalistOppressor
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Hot rodding a gas powered vehicle hammers your MPG/"range" at least as bad as it does on an EV. The only energy "advantage" that an ICE vehicle has is that as you expend fuel you are lowering the weight of the vehicle and making it slightly more efficient, while an EV maintains a constant weight. In either case, if you want to accelerate more you need to use more energy.
Under race conditions getting sub 100 mile range on a Model S might well be achievable. But an ICE vehicle doing the same thing will see its range reduced in the same way.
CapitalistOppressor
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CapitalistOppressor
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Not a bad review. He got a little confused about the chicken and the egg -
"Flush mounted door handles pop out when you unlock the car, which starts by merely sitting in the driver’s seat."
CapitalistOppressor
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2012 Tesla Model S Initial Driving Impressions: Video
Edit: Actually this is Voelker's video and a summation of his report, not an actual review.
Edit: Actually this is Voelker's video and a summation of his report, not an actual review.
CapitalistOppressor
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Agreed. Not becoming a political football will double the potential market for Model S, so anything not negative from Fox is welcome.
CapitalistOppressor
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Geez, those look worse than pix I'd take on my iPhone. Do you suppose someone actually got paid to take those?
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