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Newbie pre purchase Model S question.
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WannabeOwner
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Some time until M3 arrives in the UK (might not be a problem for you). It will be arriving with CCS rapid charger port, not Supercharger socket. Tesla will convert Superchargers to provide both old-style and also new CCS plugs, but I very very much doubt it will be "all of them, by then". There are zero high speed CCS chargers in the UK at present, but they are coming "real soon now". In time M3 owners will have choice of any Tesla Supercharger, or any Rapid CCS charger. Nirvana
But Tesla say (i.e. do NOT put any money on it until actually arrives... ) that they will produce a CCS converted for MS / MX ... so those models, too, will be able to Rapid-charge at either existing (unmodified) Supercharger, or any 3rd party CCS sites.
If you will never Roadcharge (or for all your out-of-range trips you will be happy with destination-charging [hours, rather than minutes]) then either is fine. If you will need Roadcharge then my 2p would be on "Get an MS/MX for the next 2 - 3 years". If you will need Roadcharge often (e.g. high-mileage travelling salesman type job) then IMHO the only choice is MS/MX .
Actually thinking about it, it’s a very easy decision: get a MS now with free supercharging, enjoy it for a few years then when’s it’s time to change cars look at what EVs are available at that time. Unlike ICE cars, the evolution of EVs will be a lot quicker, so who knows what the landscape will look like in 4 years time.
Also saves having to wait anything up to a year for an M3. I'm not sure exactly how many alternatives there will be in 4 years time (maybe 2 or 3 contenders, but mostly SUVs or high end MS competitors like the Porsche Taycan) but they will all have to be bought brand new or nearly new! On the used market the choices will still be Tesla or the iPace.
WannabeOwner
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Free supercharging for 6 months only, and only for orders before 17-December (using a referral code) ...
... or make a private purchase of a 2nd hand Tesla which is old enough to have lifetime Supercharging (I presume that if you buy 2nd hand from Tesla themselves they don't pass on the Supercharging, regardless of what the original owner entitlement was)
thegruf
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whilst free supercharging is a great offer, do consider how much you will make use of it in reality and then work out the value.
It might be worth a lot less to you than you think if you are only an occasional user.
It might be worth a lot less to you than you think if you are only an occasional user.
WannabeOwner
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Good point. Assuming 3 miles per kWh:
My E7 rate is 8p per unit = 2.7p per mile - £270 / 10,000 miles
Day rate @ 15p = 5p per mile
Supercharger rate@ 20p = 6.7p per mile
Petrol at £1.30 / L and 50 MPG = 11.8p per mile - £1,180 / 10,000 miles
My E7 rate is 8p per unit = 2.7p per mile - £270 / 10,000 miles
Day rate @ 15p = 5p per mile
Supercharger rate@ 20p = 6.7p per mile
Petrol at £1.30 / L and 50 MPG = 11.8p per mile - £1,180 / 10,000 miles
Valid points guys - thanks.
The only reason I was thinking a used MS with free supercharging was that I would love to do a 3 week European road trip (been watching too many You Tube videos), taking in Euro Disney, Monaco, over to Barcelona, then on to Malaga via Valencia and back home via Bordeaux and Le Mans. The thought of doing that on free supercharging and destination chargers only is exciting. Planning hotel stays based on destination chargers will be fun.
But let’s not get ahead of myself, get the car first lol.
The only reason I was thinking a used MS with free supercharging was that I would love to do a 3 week European road trip (been watching too many You Tube videos), taking in Euro Disney, Monaco, over to Barcelona, then on to Malaga via Valencia and back home via Bordeaux and Le Mans. The thought of doing that on free supercharging and destination chargers only is exciting. Planning hotel stays based on destination chargers will be fun.
But let’s not get ahead of myself, get the car first lol.
thegruf
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Petrol at £1.30 / L and 50 MPG = 11.8p per mile - £1,180 / 10,000 miles
or more relevantly petrol for a comparable performance vehicle eg RS5/M3/C63
Petrol at £1.30 / L and 25 MPG = 23.6p per mile - £2,360 / 10,000 miles
makes it almost 1/10 the cost if mostly charged overnight
.jg.
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That's possible, although you might need a few stops at third party chargers. Some French superchargers are located in car parks of Novotel and Mercure hotels. If you;re interested in things like Eurodisney, the supercharger at Novotel Poitiers happens to be next door to Futuroscope.
WannabeOwner
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Although if you had no destination chargers, 100% at Superchargers ... AND had to pay ... its 270-quid .... not exactly going to break the bank
In @thegruf 25MPG RS5 that would be 800-quid for fuel ....
3,325 miles, 50h47m driving plus 12h40m Supercharging ... obviously better than that with well positioned overnight destination charging.
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