I think most people forget the part how much fun a P85+ really is to *drive*. Everyone is now so focused on the AP which will evolve further anyway and there will be another point where more hardware is added and then suddenly all current AP cars are considered "worthless". It's a constant cycle of chasing the latest tech. Every day when I get in the car to drive, I still always feel the thrill of driving something that is so far ahead of all the gas guzzling competition out there and for me it's always been about the fun of driving, no matter what car I had. Of course, hindsight I would have waited 5 more months if I would have known that NOT having the AP would screw me over so bad in the end!! It'd like Apple hardware. Who buys an iPhone 6s when they KNOW that the iPhone 7 is around the corner?