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[Clockwork]

Clockwork, are you allowed to buy a car in the US and drive it across the border to register in Canada? I’ve seen P3Ds on the inventory site (though only msm and black)... at some point I wonder if settling for an inventory car is the competition.

Based on everything I've read: No.

 

[Clockwork]

In fact Teslas are one of the only cars where if I just bought a US one and then wanted to import it to Canada (at extreme cost) they just wouldn't allow it. Tesla blocks it.

 

[ammulder]

That stinks!

 

[Tholland]

Are you going to get a different car? I'm just curious what you're looking at, as I'd like to be considering alternatives.

If there were a similar competitor I would have canceled by now too and gotten something from a company that can actually deliver. I keep trying to think of one but (in my mind) there isn't any competition until late 2020 when (allegedly) the Polestar 2 and Audio E-Tron GT become available.

I would just keep my civic type r! We have a model 3 dual motor already. Or maybe a Audi S5 coupe or RS3 maybe. Not sure. Haven’t thought that far. Audi is now BACKTRACKING on electric actually. Was article on it today

 

[Clockwork]

I would just keep my civic type r! We have a model 3 dual motor already. Or maybe a Audi S5 coupe or RS3 maybe. Not sure. Haven’t thought that far. Audi is now BACKTRACKING on electric actually. Was article on it today

Oh? I'm not able to find anything about that. I know they've been having to revise their timeline. That what I'm lamenting. That Tesla's competitors are years away.

 

[67King]

Looking at the order spreadsheet pinned at the top, looks like all of the

So my order is going to be cxl for reason on Tesla part. I put all of our info in with the amount (maximum) we asked for. Which is fine. How ever I bank with Navy Federal Credit Union. And the car that we are trading in is also financed thru them. They have what’s call a internal payoff. Meaning use my current trade in totally value and use it as if I DONOT have a lien on it. Tesla stated that they have done this and then when we got to a earlier delivery today they said oh no we can’t not accept you check because you have a payoff that we have to pay when all the loan documents say do not send NFCU a pay off for it’s member with a exiting loan with them. So now I would either have to get different financing which is another credit hit which will be 2 hits in 30 days, and be a different bank compared to everything else we have. And I’m not going thru that. It’s stupid and unfair specially when they said they have done this. And others have not had this issue. And now my trade in amount is gone and we have had to use one car for 2 weeks because we can’t go over the mileage or that has to be redone. It’s just a mess. And it’s been hell for no reason. Our first Tesla model 3 went butter smooth not this. So that is why my order is being canceled. Really don’t like when people try to make reason for people they do not know or even care to know.

Tesla would not know (nor care) if they were getting a title with no lien on it. There is a mixup somewhere, but it isn't on Tesla's end. From what I read, Tesla was presented with a title with a lien still on it. I don't blame them for saying "no," because they wouldn't own the car, the bank would. Perhaps the mixup was on NFCU's end, I don't know.

 

[Tholland]

@67King please see the document I have posted

 

[Tholland]

Looking at the order spreadsheet pinned at the top, looks like all of the


Tesla would not know (nor care) if they were getting a title with no lien on it. There is a mixup somewhere, but it isn't on Tesla's end. From what I read, Tesla was presented with a title with a lien still on it. I don't blame them for saying "no," because they wouldn't own the car, the bank would. Perhaps the mixup was on NFCU's end, I don't know.

Definitely a Tesla issue. I have bought plenty of cars in pass without issue and Tesla is first that doesn’t know or understand. Mind you they stated they had done this many of times. So again it’s their issue not the banks.

 

[Tholland]

NFCU is the largest credit union in America currently it’s not them. They have all the instructions with the draft. So we shall see what happens. Tesla seem to be all wait let us make it right now so we shall see what happens

 

[Kilotango74]

So my order is going to be cxl for reason on Tesla part. I put all of our info in with the amount (maximum) we asked for. Which is fine. How ever I bank with Navy Federal Credit Union. And the car that we are trading in is also financed thru them. They have what’s call a internal payoff. Meaning use my current trade in totally value and use it as if I DONOT have a lien on it. Tesla stated that they have done this and then when we got to a earlier delivery today they said oh no we can’t not accept you check because you have a payoff that we have to pay when all the loan documents say do not send NFCU a pay off for it’s member with a exiting loan with them. So now I would either have to get different financing which is another credit hit which will be 2 hits in 30 days, and be a different bank compared to everything else we have. And I’m not going thru that. It’s stupid and unfair specially when they said they have done this. And others have not had this issue. And now my trade in amount is gone and we have had to use one car for 2 weeks because we can’t go over the mileage or that has to be redone. It’s just a mess. And it’s been hell for no reason. Our first Tesla model 3 went butter smooth not this. So that is why my order is being canceled. Really don’t like when people try to make reason for people they do not know or even care to know.

I am at NFCU as well, but USAA has better loans so I will be going with them.. Just so you know when shopping for auto loans multiple hits are usually not counted as negatives on your credit score. This is from Experian....
"Lenders know that multiple applications for a car loan within a short period of time indicate you are shopping for the best terms, not buying multiple cars. Scoring systems have been designed to reflect that reality. Therefore, as long as the inquiries were all made within a certain period of time, usually 14 days but sometimes longer, they are counted as just one when calculating your score." Hope it works out for you.

 

[Kilotango74]

Oh? I'm not able to find anything about that. I know they've been having to revise their timeline. That what I'm lamenting. That Tesla's competitors are years away.

I read this today too. Having trouble finding it now.

 

[Kilotango74]

I read this today too. Having trouble finding it now.

Found it!

Audi Loses Faith In Batteries, Restarts Hydrogen Powertrain Development

Article seems to indicate that they are focusing more on hydrogen but not entirely backing out o EV

 

[Kilotango74]

Glad to see a lot of spoilers installed on recently delivered Performance Model 3's!!

 

[Tholland]

I am at NFCU as well, but USAA has better loans so I will be going with them.. Just so you know when shopping for auto loans multiple hits are usually not counted as negatives on your credit score. This is from Experian....
"Lenders know that multiple applications for a car loan within a short period of time indicate you are shopping for the best terms, not buying multiple cars. Scoring systems have been designed to reflect that reality. Therefore, as long as the inquiries were all made within a certain period of time, usually 14 days but sometimes longer, they are counted as just one when calculating your score." Hope it works out for you.

Thanks for the kind words. Yeah it’s normally 14 days which I’m outside of. It will be another hit. I do agree that NFCU doesn’t have the best rate but I got 3 % so pretty good.
They have always been great to me. And this time no different they called Tesla and tried to explain it and Tesla just was not having. I kinda want it to work out but I just don’t think it will. But we shall see. If you check the doc I posted a few post back you will se show simple their policy really is.

 

[Tholland]

Found it!

Audi Loses Faith In Batteries, Restarts Hydrogen Powertrain Development

Article seems to indicate that they are focusing more on hydrogen but not entirely backing out o EV

Yup that’s it

 

[mvermef]

USAA does have pretty good loan rates, they are who I used, but their insurance rates are horrid...

 

[Kilotango74]

Thanks for the kind words. Yeah it’s normally 14 days which I’m outside of. It will be another hit. I do agree that NFCU doesn’t have the best rate but I got 3 % so pretty good.
They have always been great to me. And this time no different they called Tesla and tried to explain it and Tesla just was not having. I kinda want it to work out but I just don’t think it will. But we shall see. If you check the doc I posted a few post back you will se show simple their policy really is.

USAA does have pretty good loan rates, they are who I used, but their insurance rates are horrid...

I have had them as my insurance provider for probably 15 years now and haven't looked back. Maybe I just haven't paid that much attention, but I personally don't have an issue with their rates.

 

[Clockwork]

A delivery date has appeared on my account. May 16th for my, Red with White Interior.

 

[notrhj]

samy364, Yesterday at 1:50 PM
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Any white/white P3D+ like me that is still waiting?
I'm in the same boat, ordered 4/18 and still waiting on VIN or any delivery information.

w/w P3D+ Right behind you both 4/20 no information

 

[ammulder]

A delivery date has appeared on my account. May 16th for my, Red with White Interior.

FI-NA-LLY!